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10:44 pm
August 13, 2009
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Apparently I missed a brou-ha-ha on UMB and users who were flagged by SO by being probably in the top 5% of bandwidth users at 10GB.
There is an element in this forum that feels that the U in UMB means Unlimited and completely circumvents any and all other common sense 'fair usage' policies.
I just don't get that mentality. Of course there are always fair usage policies for everything 'unlimited'
Example in life
All you can eat buffets. Max seating time 2 hours.
Water bill for your house. You could turn the taps on and leave it on 100% of the time, but most people would call you an a hole for wasting water. If you had a water meter, the water co would probably come to your house asking why you were using so much and if you said that you just leave the water on because you like the sound of it coming out of the tap, they'd probably turn your water off because that is pure wastage.
SO, for simplicity sake, should just call it $10 Mobile Browsing and offer 1GB max. That will cover 80% of most of the users. The next 15% will use up to 2GB and get a warning, and anyone over 2GB gets a warning letter, but charged $1/100mb overage for anything over 2gb.
Of course SO won't do that because saying 'Unlimited' is a great marketing tool.
The fact that they don't outline what fair useage means on their website doesn't help either.
4:09 am
April 22, 2009
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If you follow Speakout's terms and conditions to a T, you are not going to go anywhere near 2GB a month, so unlimited mobile browsing is truly unlimited for what is offered. You will get the warning letter and eventually cut off because you are violating the terms and conditions, a AND you are a data pig. It is UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING! not streaming, not VOIP, not downloading, UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING!
i am happy with the current plan, with it's current limitations, and it's current pricing. Why would anyone want to mess up such a good thing?
5:18 am
May 3, 2011
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bridonca said:
If you follow Speakout's terms and conditions to a T, you are not going to go anywhere near 2GB a month, so unlimited mobile browsing is truly unlimited for what is offered. You will get the warning letter and eventually cut off because you are violating the terms and conditions, a AND you are a data pig. It is UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING! not streaming, not VOIP, not downloading, UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING!
i am happy with the current plan, with it's current limitations, and it's current pricing. Why would anyone want to mess up such a good thing?
I second that. Great value, don't screw it up.
7:26 am
July 29, 2011
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Agreed, but not sure how Speakout could be expected to send warning letters to any datahog UMB users who pay cash for their phones, SIM cards and top ups. They would just cut the UMB service off.
12:13 pm
October 14, 2008
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bridonca said:
If you follow Speakout's terms and conditions to a T, you are not going to go anywhere near 2GB a month, so unlimited mobile browsing is truly unlimited for what is offered. You will get the warning letter and eventually cut off because you are violating the terms and conditions, a AND you are a data pig. It is UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING! not streaming, not VOIP, not downloading, UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING!
i am happy with the current plan, with it's current limitations, and it's current pricing. Why would anyone want to mess up such a good thing?
I couldn't have said it any better. My thoughts exactly. It is for browsing. That's it. The ones that are complaining about being cut off are the ones abusing the service.
12:54 pm
March 12, 2009
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Agreed, but not sure how Speakout could be expected to send warning letters to any datahog UMB users who pay cash for their phones, SIM cards and top ups. They would just cut the UMB service off.
Wouldn't a text message do the trick?
5:08 pm
December 3, 2012
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bridonca said:
If you follow Speakout's terms and conditions to a T, you are not going to go anywhere near 2GB a month, so unlimited mobile browsing is truly unlimited for what is offered. You will get the warning letter and eventually cut off because you are violating the terms and conditions, a AND you are a data pig. It is UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING! not streaming, not VOIP, not downloading, UNLIMITED MOBILE BROWSING!
i am happy with the current plan, with it's current limitations, and it's current pricing. Why would anyone want to mess up such a good thing?
I also agree. The value is great and I am happy with the service.
7:47 pm
December 30, 2010
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the UMB to me is more of a peace of mind(and a little bit saving). my logged usage(well the person using it) is about 250-400MB a month.
Telus has the 500MB@20 and Virgin has 250MB@15, both also offers PAYGO voice/SMS and no e911 charge.
So the net difference is not that much and telus/bell has better coverage and speed as well.
The advantage of UMB of course is, I don't need to pay extra for unexpected spike usage and slightly cheaper(8/month or so).
Thus for those really want full data(but not streaming HD), give the telus/virgin a try and stop complaining about UMB as you know you are asking too much
10:13 pm
August 13, 2009
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The original original poster as irritating and annoying as he is, is still pretty entertaining.
I think there are a lot of posters here that are pretty intelligent, and don't belevie the marketing hype.
What's the hype with $10 unlimited? Well it's just browsing, and it's not really unlimited in the sense that if someone is abusing the rule, they'll modify it.
If you want to keep yourself entertained, you can follow his many posts.
Apparently he's kicked off of all 'unlimited' plans from all providers.
http://www.howardforums.com/sh.....throttling
So if one person calls you a jackass, you tell them to stuff it. If everybody calls you a jackass, maybe you should buy a saddle.
2:15 am
August 13, 2009
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JAC - good question. Yes, I used tethering. However, it makes no difference in terms of data usage. If I don't explain it well, hopefully someone else can, but when you tether and go to browse a page, you see the same dithered, low-res page that you do on your phone. Well, at least I did. It looks pretty funny on an HD laptop screen.
Agreed. They should do like Mobilicity, Wind and others that used to advertise their plans as 'unlimited' without indicating their usage caps and throttling policies. Those companies all now clearly indicate their caps right beside the word 'unlimited'. I think it defeats the purpose of using 'unlimited' right beside the data cap. But that's their marketing problem; the info is now clearly there.
And Jimbo can keep saying they send customers a notice until he's blue in the face. Their policy says they don't have to send a notice, and they don't. And as clearly indicated in my last post, there's no way a customer would be able to figure it out from their product information page. For the sake of argument, even if they did send a notice after a customer signed up (which they don't), it would still be false advertising to inform a customer of an unadvertised limitation/restriction AFTER they've already paid for a service.
Well, found it on another forum. He was tethering, which means circumventing ports, which means a redflag. All it takes is going over the 2gb to get noticed, useage of 10gb in a month, autoproxying, and tethering, for a telco to slap on a packet sniffer to realize that no phone device has a browser that requires a 1600x1080 resolution running google chrome, and just dump the guy.
5:53 pm
February 1, 2012
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you people thinking 250mb or even 500mb is a lot of data now a days are living in the stone ages.
I can run through 5gb of data on my smartphone in no time and I keep my usage conservative because of the limit my provider puts in place.
As far as the label of "unlimited" and your analogys lets be real for a second.
These companys market it as such and prey on the ignorance of people when they sell them on these data plans and call them "unlimited'.
So obviously there will be a backlash when people find out it is not exactly what was advertised to them.
Carriers should not be advertising "unlimited" if they truly can not offer unlimited.
To be honest the idea of data caps being imposed in the first place is such a ridiculous idea to me, but that is another can of worms I dont want to get into on these forums.
6:34 pm
August 13, 2009
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Doesn't matter anymore.
UMB was created at a time when there smart phones and apps didn't consume very much data.
Times have changed, so I don't see UMB being around too much longer.
UMB was created before there were phones that could be hacked to circumvent ports, and netflix and streaming HD, and apps that consume large amounts of data. Unlimited back then meant unlimited, because it would be near impossible to use more than 500mb.
SO made a mistake. So bad business decisions will be cut.
So UMB as a revenue stream is obsolete.
One of two things will happen now: Termination notices of people who root, hack, circumvent, whatever and go over 2gb, or UMB goes away.
Personally I don't really care. It's interesting conversation. I would rather UMB go away. 20c/min and 10c/mb sounds about right
I finally figured out a better analogy.
It's like the NHL lockout. Two f-ing greedy jerks on both sides. SO is not even a real cell phone company!
