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eek. I hope that is not true.

There are enough full data plan providers out there, don't need another one.

what we are seeing here in canada is not real competition(sans SO/PetroCanada, running by the same company actually). Wind/Mobility may be but it is so restricted to a small region.

Bell/Telus/Rogers all have basically the same plan, for the same price with some non-essential freebies here and there.

A few months ago, the average is 50/month. Now they all push to 60/months. That is not competition but collusion to me.

SO/PC offers some alternatives where people don't want/need to pay for the outrageous data price but get a restricted but mostly enough on the road data connectivity for a reasonable price.

If the go full data, the UMB will be gone I am afraid.

The best scenario is Speakout providing real data as an option but still provide the current UMB (perhaps grandfathered). This is almost unlikely seeing how all other telecom weenie has either killed it off or handicapped it by throttling.

The next best scenario would be to offer real data at a more attractive pricing. Some of the plans I was hoping to see if they do kill UMB. Almost everyone else sells a $10/100MB per month. Perhaps one up the competitor by offering $10/200-250MB per month. Another idea is to sell data in blocks (data pay as you go) $10/100MB but if you don't use it, it stays with you until it runs out. And you keep filling it up if you need it.

The worst scenario would be to kill UMB and offer data plan similar to the other telecom. This will kill off any competition hopeful. For me, Pay as you go, would be rebooting to old time with a clamshell phone for emergency use. The smartphone would go bye by.

Lets see what happens next before judgment day.

Currently, UMB aka unlimited browsing is a data plan that is limited to port 80 / 443. Which only allow access to http:// and https:// for the most part. Just for browsing. This, for example, won't allow you to check e-mail directly from an app, cause imap access port 143, no google voice search / Apple sirius, no app store, and most VOIP software without any workaround apps like a proxy app, which requires root access to your device for Android phone, won't work.

A full data plan would be one where it allows most of the common port, which is commonly known as a full data access. Which means it will be the same as your home internet connection and large majority of the programs are expected to work. It is also possible that the full data plan will be faster, too.

Overall it depends on your needs. Currently the UMB plan on SO is very good, it provides the market a unique product where we can't get anywhere else. A full data plan, unless priced very well, are not going to add much to the market, and generally speaking, not worth losing /damaging the UMB offering.

just a minor clarification, the big three free mail has http/https access on Android. On iOS, yahoo doesn't.

So are many corporation exchange based email system(activesync) that is accessible via UMB.

IOW, UMB does allow email access(even push works in some degree) without any additional effort.

There are also some IM(whatsapp I believe) that works as well.

That is also why I said for on the road connectivity(keep in contact), UMB is mostly enough given today's situation.

For those who needs beyond that, they should pick the big three data package.

thanks. i never use whatsapp, just faintly second hand info from RFD.

jackie999 said:

What would be the difference between a "full data plan" and the existing $10 a month add on? It worked quite well for me the few months I used it...

Probably about $20.

The problem is people are expecting UMD to be priced the same as UMB, of which will never happen.

Personally I would prefer prepaid data, similar to prepaid voice.

unlimited 3G full data @ 10 was a flop. I haven't seen that kind of pricing except may be in Europe.

I continue to say keep the UMB and not full data.

There are other options like bell prepaid or koodo prepaid which offers reasonable pricing for data/voice/sms combination. Just go that route if full data is really that important(which honoursly speaking not that critical).

I know how to and have the setup in place but don't even bother to turn it.

Using cell mobile data for VOIP is just the wrong way of doing it, IMO. No matter how good your codec is, it is just not reliable given the cell mobile data nature. cell company's voice has QoS that is way ahead.

Google map app from Android works as long as you have autoproxy or proxydroid. It works quite well. 3G speed is plenty to download map data to use with the navigation app from Android. You no longer need to load maps locally on your SD card. As long as you are in Rogers mobile signal, you can use the Google map navigation. You always get the latest map from Google which is quite convenient when entering new developed area.

Only drawback is 3G sucks battery life big time, so you have to constantly plug it into the cigarette adapter and it barely charges while you use 3G and navigation.