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January 10, 2014
12:57 pm
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I'm going to ask them how often it updates.

Much to my horror, my spouse updated pic's on her FB page as we were driving down from the ski hill, two days after her plan renewed. When we got home I checked and found they already had logged the 20MB's she had used that afternoon.

I switched to a tablet plan.

Does it also require a voice plan to be tied to it? Does that plan require a 2 or 3 year contract?

I tried CSIP Simple to make VOIP calls via my VOIP.ms account when I had unlimited free data on my work phone, but it was simply just too unreliable to be worth bothering with and I gave up. Maybe in the past year things have improved somewhat?

January 10, 2014
4:29 pm
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wind mobile is offering 1gig data for $10 a month of course you will need a phone are stick that runs on the aws frequencies 1700/2100

January 10, 2014
4:33 pm
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VOIP over 3G? Still not a credible solution because of the spotty voice quality. It is still very bad when it is bad. You can get times of acceptable quality, but what good is that if you need a quality call and it is not there?

As for the tablet data plan, I got mine from Telus, I kind of felt I had to be a little sly and not really mention what device I was using the tablet data plan for. Telus will still charge $1 a minute for voice calls on their tablet data plan, so they must know people swap devices. Rule of thumb is say as little as possible, or something vague like you are using it on multiple devices, so it is best Telus register the plan under a dummy IMEI than one on your phone.

Once registered, you are on month to month with no further commitment, unless you were foolish enough to get your device from Telus. on contract. If you get a Telus prepaid device, that is better, because you usually get $20 activation credit you can use toward your month to month bill.

I have never tried VOIP over LTE, and will test it out this spring with Eastlink. $10 for 100 megs, but if I use it for compressed VOIP, I should have about 10 hours of yakking.

January 10, 2014
4:38 pm
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Thanks for that. As I live in Banff, I assue that would only work for me when I go to Calgary, as I'm under the impression that service only works in select locations, (EG: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, etc.).

This is what I assume I'd have to pay:

When you travel in Canada and the US off the WIND Network you get low flat-rates with no additional long distance charges. You could be calling San Diego from St. John's and the rate is the same as Montreal to Laval.

20¢/min Canada/US-wide Calling
15¢/Text Canada/US -wide
25¢/Text Global Texting
$1/MB Data

January 12, 2014
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Tony said:

Update
Our UMB ran out on the December expiry date with no renewal of UMB. So have activated $10 for 100 MB data. Now the data use meter is visible on the bottom of the left side panel in the SpeakOut profile page. Will update on reported data use.


Update.
Data usage seems to be steady at about 1 MB per day so 100 MB should easily get us through a month and allow some infrequent periods of heavier downloading such as email attachments. The biggest data consuming app seemed to be Google Play so I turned off background updates.

It's early in the first month of the new $10/100 MB data plan for us, but it looks like the plan will give us the cheapest option for some data and some voice. I'm estimating the "plan" will cost us between $12 and $15/month giving us the data and talk that we typically use.

January 17, 2014
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Still have 10 days to go, already used 200MB plus, account down another $11 on top of the initial $10. I'm not heavy user at all and can't check realtime usage always gave me a surprise when I check balance.

Tony, how did you manage to get 1 MB per day ? I'm looking $35 for data alone here under current $10 plan.

January 18, 2014
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I guess you have to figure out how your data is getting used. Somewhere in your phone there should be a place where they tell you which apps are consuming the most data.

Some things to consider are:

- not letting Playstore do any updating on while you are on data.
- for web browsing, use Opera Mini. It compresses the data, using very little.
- You can also set the browser to not download pics, so you only get the text.
- Use wifi whenever possible.

January 20, 2014
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I have put the number *777*4# to get my money and data balance on one of my speed dials and have been trying to regularly check the values. I then record them with a date in a simple text file - in a few months I should have enough info to make a longer term decision.

The past week or so data has been at about 1 MB per day on my iPhone 4s. I generally keep the cell data turned off and only flip it on when I want it explicitly, and I have most of the apps set so that they do not use data over the cell services (under "Settings" -> "Cellular" in iOS 7)

January 22, 2014
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platina said:

I'm a bit paranoid... I don't think my My Usage has changed at all in the past few days, despite having definitely used it. So frustrating that it's not accurate. I'm going to ask them how often it updates.


Signed up for the 500 MB dataplan 10 days ago. My phone (Android 4.3.1; Cyanogenmod 10.2) says I have used 115MB in that time. Fairly even usage on the graph. No real spikes from day to day. However, when I look at the usage monitor on the SO website, It shows I still have 479 MB remaining. I have been checking daily, and it is dropping by a few MB each day.

just waiting for the other foot to drop and it to catch up.

January 22, 2014
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i would say always trust the phone as there is no guarantee that their online figure is up to the minute or hour or day except at end of period when the reset happens.

January 22, 2014
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for you guys don't have enough data, you can install "Onavo Extend" to save data. it can save almost 50% of your data.

January 22, 2014
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"Onavo Extend" and "Onavo Count" seem like useful tools for tracking cellular data usage, and they are free for iPhone and Android. Onavo seems to have been acquired by Facebook, and their system relies on passing your data through their servers, so it might certainly is a privacy security risk, but the trackers probably already can follow what you are doing anyhow....

http://www.onavo.com/

I'll probably give them a few weeks of trialing to see how they perform.

January 28, 2014
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Since my unlimited data useage was around 1 - 2 GB per month on the old plan, I activated a 1 GB plan (cheapest $/MB) while I shop around to see what alternatives are available.

To my surprise, my useage has not matched what my iPhone claims from day one. According to the phone I have used 1.1 GB so far, but SpeakOut shows 462 MB out of 1024 MB remaining (526 MB used).

Initially I suspected the useage lagged reality, and I'd run out - but now that I'm over 1 GB, I should have run out, but I have MB remaining, and my balance is unchanged.

Does some data not count towards the total? i.e. "unlimited social networking" or something?

Do iPhones not count accurately? I've done a WiFi test, and it does not appear to be counting WiFi.

Obviously this is good. I'm just confused and surprised.

January 28, 2014
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I'm confused too. Last week I posted that I had used 115 MB on my phone, but SO only counted 21 MB. Now, I am seeing used 256 MB, but SO is showing 54 used.

Look like next month I will cancel my $35 plan and go back to $10 100 MB plan. Should give me 400 MB of usage??

January 28, 2014
1:44 pm
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My data is:

implement data $10/month on 12-29
2013-12-29 $273.70 100 MB
2013-12-30 $273.70 99 MB
2014-01-10 $272.45 92 MB
2014-01-13 $260.90 88 MB
2014-01-14 $256.75 88 MB
2014-01-18 $253.45 84 MB
2014-01-20 $253.45 83 MB
2014-01-21 $252.95 83 MB
2014-01-21 $252.70 81 MB
2014-01-27 $252.70 80 MB
2014-01-28 $252.70 72 MB

For this month at least, I don't seem to have gone anywhere near the 100MB of data. I am a bit over $20 in phone and text usage however. After a few more months of information I may switch to a "value plan" if that would be a bit cheaper - the downside of the value plans of course is that if I have a very low usage for that month I am still paying the same price. Right now my only recurring charges are the $1.25 monthly 9-11 fee and the $10 data. Clearly if I had the ability to just get charged $0.10/MB I would be better off doing that for this month.

January 30, 2014
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What's up about tethering now since they changed UMB for the new data plan? They didn't seem to have updated their TOS, but things have changed and tethering is mentioned a little everywhere on the forum here. The previous plan was for unlimited browsing only, but it was replaced by a per mb DATA plan. So what's tolerated and what's not? I have read SO CS let tablet users the data plan at their own risks and someone wrote about having used a BBC stream, but on the other hand, connecting the internet service from a cell to a tablet or a laptop was illegal tethering. Could it goes as far as using in an internet stick connected to a laptop or a tablet? Where do they currently draw the line?

February 2, 2014
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DigitalArk said:

Since my unlimited data useage was around 1 - 2 GB per month on the old plan, I activated a 1 GB plan (cheapest $/MB) while I shop around to see what alternatives are available.

To my surprise, my useage has not matched what my iPhone claims from day one. According to the phone I have used 1.1 GB so far, but SpeakOut shows 462 MB out of 1024 MB remaining (526 MB used).

Initially I suspected the useage lagged reality, and I'd run out - but now that I'm over 1 GB, I should have run out, but I have MB remaining, and my balance is unchanged.

Does some data not count towards the total? i.e. "unlimited social networking" or something?

Do iPhones not count accurately? I've done a WiFi test, and it does not appear to be counting WiFi.

Obviously this is good. I'm just confused and surprised.


So, I read this post and noticed the same thing - mainly that Skype wasn't counting data properly. Decided to go crazy and do a Skype video call on my $10/month plan. Check the usage, nothing.... then a few days later, still nothing. But eventually it did update sporadically (I hardly use my phone otherwise), and I've been abusing a lot of other apps as well so it came to $23 extra in usage. Not the worst, but just a word of caution since it could have been much worse

February 2, 2014
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It would seem there is no data app that can figure out how Speakout counts data. I uninstalled 'My Data', and then installe Onavo Count instead after I upgraded my ROM to Miui 5. As my month is about to expire a few days ago I tethered my tablet for a few hours for checking gmail via a browser window. Yesterday I was out and about and data was turned on and I noticed a few new emails had come in. (Only about one or two email's arrived during that time I was tethered.). I think at that time I had about 60MB remaining. Today I see on the SO page I seems to have used about 9MB, however Onavo shows I used roughly double that amount. I think Onavo has got it a bit better than My Data, but still nothing seems to accurately reflect the SO Page.

February 4, 2014
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naoer3 said:

Tony, how did you manage to get 1 MB per day ? I'm looking $35 for data alone here under current $10 plan.


Some steps I took:
- Use gmail only including checking POP email accounts instead of the Android email app. Download email attachments only on demand, never in background.The Android app seemed to use a lot of data so clearing out the email accounts saved data usage.
- The Playstore for some reason used a lot of data so I went into the app settings for the Playstore and disabled background data downloads. That was the biggest culprit.
- Checked the data usage reported by Android and made sure things like app updates only happened on wifi and not data.

Mainly the data is there for email, Google maps, and Life360 family finder. So no Youtube videos, on photo uploads, nothing that can't wait until we're connected by wifi. We're on Shaw so there is Shaw Wifi in many places so we just wait until we get to a hotspot.

My next billing cycle expires Feb 24, I'll check data usage and the $$ balance a few days before that and see if I'm still only using about $10/month. Talk time is minimal.

Too bad Speakout doesn't show billing history.

March 18, 2014
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Anyone noticing that the data measurements are becoming more accurate? SO used to be only registering about 1/4 of the data usage. Seems about 1/2 correct now. Maybe it's just me