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8:01 pm
May 14, 2013
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Now that the Browsing option has been throttled and is watched carefully for anyone that uses 1kb more than 2GB and is kicked off forever... I ask you all this simple question...
If they always had the ability to meter data usage (a la Rogers prepaid data packs)
Why do they let people abuse the 2GB data cap instead of deactivating the feature?
Think about it, they said the limit was 2GB, so instead of letting people abuse it and then tell them after the fact, why not just use the system to limit people?
I have a few ideas on why...
#1) They want to say "Unlimited" to catch your attention
#2) They did not expect people o use autoproxy to turn crippled data into full data, even thought they allowed streaming without the autoproxy.
#3) Rogers did not want Speakout to be able to advertise 2GB of data for $10 a month.
#4) This is like one of those mail in rebate models where if everybody used the rebate is the 2GB of data) the company would not make much money
I am just pointing out that they allowed people to go over when they had the ability to shut down the data on any used like ROgers can with the Data packs.
11:30 pm
April 22, 2009
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If you are going anywhere close to 2GB, you are abusing the service, and violating the terms and conditions. And yes, you should get the ban hammer. There is no way you can browse 2GB away! Download, yes, stream, yes, but not browse that much!
8:22 am
May 14, 2013
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You did not answer my question.
Why do they not disable the service at 2GB?
And who are you to say you cannot browse 2GB worth in a month?
You do know that full HTML browsers CAN eat up 2GB with all plug-ins enabled... for example, using flash in a browser...
So I will allow to to try again and post an answer, you are a MOD, you should be setting anexample instead of SPAMMING the forums with your bias opinions.
8:45 am
January 18, 2009
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Probably because the system is not "real time".
9:53 am
April 22, 2009
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Again, if you browse with your mobile browser, you should not get even close to 2 gigabyte of quota! If you decide to do anything else with the service that is not Unlimited Mobile Browsing, you are violating Speakout's terms and conditions and Speakout has the right to boot you off the system. But they do not. You get booted off when you go over the 2 GB limit, a limit you would never reach if all you did was browse with your mobile device.
And please refresh my memory, what mobile browser uses flash? Certainly not an iphone browser, And you have to work hard to install flash on a android device.
Take a look at the terms and conditions. It looks like you need to be a bit more acquainted with them!
11:36 am
August 13, 2009
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You are correct on all terms.
#4. Many other services are sold on the overbooked model. Home internet service, airplane flights, home telephone service. Cell phone service, electricity usage. Anything with a finite throughput.
You forgot number 5.
SO will let people abuse as much as possible so that the word spreads and people sign up. SO will allow abuse to happen untill Rogers pulls the brakes on the practice.
You were making a point to be one of the greatest 'downloaders' so you redflagged yourself.
UMB is limited. Without flash, there's not much bandwidth usage. Video, streaming, and downloading will be the majority of your bandwidth of YOUR bandwidth, of which violates TOS.
UMB is a dinosaur in a pre smartphone era. The meteor is already streaking over the horizon. It's over. Get used to it.
or keep complaining.
I wish they would get on with getting it over. People like you complaining have taken over the internet.
11:07 pm
November 5, 2011
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bridonca said:
If you are going anywhere close to 2GB, you are abu….
I can come very close to 2 gigs of data easily within 30 days. I am considering the download capabilities through the open port. As far as I know, you're allowed to download legally obtained Mpg files, and those files can get pretty big.
what mobile browser uses flash?
My stock Android browser plays flash videos in the browser. Streaming video, that is against the TOS though. Pushing the red play button happens anyways.
10:57 am
August 13, 2009
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jakeroberts said:
My stock Android browser plays flash videos in the browser. Streaming video, that is against the TOS though. Pushing the red play button happens anyways.
My hard stance on "NO STREAMING" generally is softening simply because modern phones these days just naturally circumvent things that UMB was trying to prevent.
If you don't need to hack and it magically works, then you can't be blamed for whatever happens.
However since most phones will circumvent UMB, UMB has to go away...
It will be interesting to see if SO has some sort of pay per use data.
I've since migrated to wind, however since I have a balance with SO, it would be nice to have some sort of balance with SO that I could use for data..
11:25 am
December 30, 2010
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my iphone(non-jailbreak one thus no hacking) works just fine with UMB for most apps that I use. major public mail works, corporate mail works so is browsing and most reading apps(bloomberg etc.)
map also works so I can still have it when I am lost.
IM of course doesn't work but that is not UMB is designed for and I am fine with that.
7:07 pm
August 19, 2013
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I mostly just experiment with my connection to see what apps I can get to work, and how good voice and video are on a 500KB/s connection (that's what I'm averaging at the moment).. and btw it works well! I'll have to stand outside somewhere to see what speeds i can get once I pick up a 3G signal, lol.
Google Hangouts video chat doesn't work over 3G (at least for me it doesn't).. but Vtok does (so you can videochat with people still using the GTalk app). Skype works fine though. Gmail email notifications work.. SMS messages sent through Gmail's SMS feature work.. regular SMS's (I think) work. Pretty much everything works..
I think 2 GB/month for $10 is reasonable, considering the speed. I'd be happy paying $25/month for a 5 GB *FULL DATA plan @ 7-8mbps 3G speeds or so*. For comparison, Bell and Rogers charge $35-$45/month for 5 GB/month but at significantly faster speeds (50mbps or higher with LTE).
