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10:55 am
February 1, 2012
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Just curious as I mentioned in other threads how much data I am using on a regular basis.
I used 3g watchdog for a two week period and found I went through about 15gbs over a two week period.
Lots of people said it was excessive. I am curious as to how much does everybody else use on average.
What would you users consider an acceptable amount of data to use without abusing the plan?
11:26 am
April 22, 2009
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You signed up for unlimited browsing, not unlimited data. I have a hard time believing Netflix counts as browsing, but I can see the argument. In any case, 15 GB a month is excessive, and if everyone put in that kind of traffic on the network, the network would buckle. That is just too much traffic load for a 3G network.
You should have never mentioned you were so hard on the network. A few people have tax the network like you, but if everyone does, you will have network issues. Guaranteed.
My fear is what Rogers could do about it. What they could do is get rid of unlimited browsing, which is why people are freaking out at you. You are working on messing up a good thing,
My hope is that Rogers will stick with a strong traffic management setup, meaning if the network gets congested to a certain point, no Netflix for you! You could still watch it a 3am when the traffic is quieter.
In any case, don't such the bandwidth in busy times. OR get a better internet connection.
11:38 am
December 30, 2010
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what puzzle me is what are you using it for and where ? mobile data is much slower than brandband by Telus/Shaw(not sure about east coast) so for such a volume, it is much better to get that unless you are 24/7 on the road watching netflix.
11:44 am
February 1, 2012
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I have a great connection at home. I use the data at work on my breaks and when going out and about.
I also feel more people should use the network as much as they can. We as users need to show rogers that there is a demand for heavy data users and although I dont expect rogers to offer $10 a month unlimited data Im sure if they had some plan that offered unlimited data for a flat fee a lot of us heavy data users would migrate to it.
If not unlimited at least give some higher caps.
If speakout users strained the network because of heavy usage rogers would have to respond to the demand.
Its just my thought though.
As far as the unlimited goes I know they have an excessive use policy. I am curious if anyone has ever been cut off for using too much data?
11:50 am
February 1, 2012
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chimpanzee said:
what puzzle me is what are you using it for and where ? mobile data is much slower than brandband by Telus/Shaw(not sure about east coast) so for such a volume, it is much better to get that unless you are 24/7 on the road watching netflix.
I have no access to wifi at my work. So that is why I use the speakout. I average about an hour a day of streaming video on my breaks.
I do have a proper broadband connection at home but we are a networked family of cord cutters.
My sons bedroom has his ps3 with netflix and playon
living room has an htpc for watching tv movies etc.
the home phone is a magic jack
my other sons bedroom has a wii with netflix
my bedroom has a gaming desktop which doubles as a media pc for the wife and I.
Also have an xbox360 in my other childs room.
all it takes is my son to be playing call of duty on his ps3 the wife to be playing her world of warcraft or onlive gaming my other 2 children watching some streaming video be it netflix hulu boxee etc. A few torrents downloading in the background. Suddenly using my wifi on my tablet is really not any signigantly better than using my speakout connection.
I use a 25mbps broadband connection at home.
1:31 pm
July 22, 2009
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So far, all notions of excessive usage is based on price point. I mean people consider 15GB is high because only Speakout (plus one other provider??) offers UMB plan. All other players will force you to metered plans at higher prices.
If you look at it from a technical perspective, who knows how much data the network can handle. Perhaps, 15GB is high, or perhaps, it is not. I guess only a Rogers technical employee could tell. Maybe someone from Rogers could provide more info.
One thing for sure is that people net habit is changing. Smartphone is more become a lifestyle. And it hard to turn back. Mobile data usage will only go up. I am not saying that justify high usage on current Speakout umb plan. But providers need to continuously upgrade their network in order to get our money.
1:57 pm
February 4, 2012
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i have speakout working still on vancouver island
7:34 pm
December 30, 2010
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ah, so you are just a super netflix video family
3:05 pm
August 13, 2009
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At my house I have had up to 15 computers running doing various things, some torrenting, others gaming. I have ddwrt on my router, and if one computer is playing not playing nice, I usually go to the user and ask them to tweak their settings.
I think the problem with your home network is your router and tweaking the torrent program to be respectful of the other computers on your network.
But that's a whole other ball of wax.
9:00 am
April 4, 2011
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I'm no judge you. 7-11 is a company, they need to make profit too. for $10 unlimited data, it is a very good deal for all of us. if 7-11 lost profit, we'll lost this good deal. I think that's what happened on 1 Feb.
I always prefer WiFi, only use 3g on 7-11 when I'm outside and no WiFi available.
bridonca said:
You signed up for unlimited browsing, not unlimited data. I have a hard time believing Netflix counts as browsing, but I can see the argument. In any case, 15 GB a month is excessive, and if everyone put in that kind of traffic on the network, the network would buckle. That is just too much traffic load for a 3G network.
You should have never mentioned you were so hard on the network. A few people have tax the network like you, but if everyone does, you will have network issues. Guaranteed.
My fear is what Rogers could do about it. What they could do is get rid of unlimited browsing, which is why people are freaking out at you. You are working on messing up a good thing,
My hope is that Rogers will stick with a strong traffic management setup, meaning if the network gets congested to a certain point, no Netflix for you! You could still watch it a 3am when the traffic is quieter.
In any case, don't such the bandwidth in busy times. OR get a better internet connection.
10:03 am
March 10, 2010
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15 GB in two weeks is excessive and you are just simply being greedy and taking advantage of an already good deal. Its now wonder that Rogers proxied the network again! What you did was abuse plain and simple. Kinda like a restaurant that puts a bowl of candies at the door. There's alway one idiot that feels he has the right to fill his pockets and take them all.
2:09 pm
April 4, 2011
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I use the UMB for a long time. However, I always use wifi at home and office, even in some malls. I only use Speakout 3G once a week when I'm outside with my son. if I'm outside, I open 3G and run VOIP app for freephoneline in case someone call me. I think maybe this is the reason my Speakout 3G still not blocked.
12:08 am
February 1, 2012
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well its been a while and I have made an effort to use wifi exclusively when at home and I have not been watching netflix like a bandit lately.
So far my usage for one week has been limited to 1gb.
6:51 am
May 2, 2009
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mr deeds said:
well its been a while and I have made an effort to use wifi exclusively when at home and I have not been watching netflix like a bandit lately.
So far my usage for one week has been limited to 1gb.
Sigh... I really hope that high data users do not ruin things for us casual users like myself. Some of us just need occasional browser access to look up addresses, bus schedules, and other information. We don't need or want to be able to watch sports and movies and TV shows on our phones.
9:05 am
December 30, 2010
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for all fairness, while I am also low usage user(only for messaging via activesync/gv) he is using it the way UMB is allowed. It just happens that HTTP has become the MOAP(which is actually a good thing).
11:33 am
March 10, 2010
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Well not really. Are any of Speakouts phones even capable of playing youtube or netflix? Somehow I don't think so. I think Speakout leased the Rogers network under the guise of it being simple dumbphone data, and an estimated usage of no more than 50MB a month. Speakout just turned a blind eye to those of us that got ahold of SIMs and threw them in our smartphones, but one day Rogers will get wise to it and call them on it. Think about it, if SO was selling true smartphone data, why wouldn't the sell a low end smartphone and advertise the heck out of it? My guess is that Rogers will not allow them to.
12:14 pm
December 30, 2010
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that is a dealing between SO and Rogers, nothing to do UMB.
UMB is simple from a technical perspective a HTTP proxy setup, no more, no less. This is done in many corporations all the time.
Rogers may one day so no more data for you(SO) and this may be dropped but whoever using it via autoproxy or that the OS already has good support(iOS), is not against any policy unless you want to stick in 'you can only using a specific browser' policy as well.
Do I like that if SO drop this ? noop. But he is not against the stated policy. Let's not discuss about intend.
1:08 pm
April 8, 2011
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Not wanting to defend using 1gb a week, but if SO/Rogers assumed only 50mb a month on dumb phones none that support netflix or heavy data apps, why would they sell stand alone SIM cards for use in none SO phones?
That being said, even using, a reduced to "1gb a week", is about 4 times what is considered normal use and is clearly taking advantage of the situation. The logic that high use will bring down prices is ridiculous. It only fuels their claim of clogging pipe lines due to high use and justify high use plans at high $. Anyway they can make a buck off the users.
It would be nice if they could come out with an abuse policy so the non-abusers don't lose a good thing because of the few data heavy.
3:43 pm
August 13, 2009
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The abuse policy is simple. If you are of the top 5% of data (UMB or otherwise) you will be given a warning. Abuse it again and subject yourself to MASSIVE throttling. Abuse it again and lose your account all together.
Actually I'm fine with the throttle. I would pay $3/month for 'unlimited' data with the understanding that anything over 10mb in a month would be HIGHLY THROTTLED. Youtube would be useless, Skype, after a certain amount of calls would become unuseable. Anything 'streaming' become unuseable.
The odd check on google, and more importantly, my mail for exchange would still work.
But really, the target SO customer is an infrequent user that wants general voice connectivity, not 365 data abuse.
The voice market over3g and gsm networks are highly profitable since no one really uses their cell phone to talk anymore. I think they allow this abuse to happen because the margins on voice calls are still good. If your abuse affects their voice margins, you can expect change.
