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10:01 pm
August 13, 2009
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Terms of service: Read it
add ons MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the following: (i) continuous mobile to mobile or mobile to landline voice calls; (ii) automated text or picture messaging to another mobile device or e-mail address(s); (iii) uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video programming or games;
For all you who don't get it, basically it means that if everyone else is rioting, it doesn't mean that it's right for you to do it also.
6:01 am
May 3, 2011
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I have no problem with the unlimited browsing package as it is. I just use it for webmail from my ISP, checking weather and weather radars and reading the news sites when I'm on the move. Only thing I wish that SOs phone offerings had a better browser, the Nokia WAP browser is a piece of hsit. Try even making bookmarks with that pig, such joy. it would be nice if Opera worked on the C3 but no matter what I tried, it doesn't work except with WiFi.
The deal that exists now is just fine and those of you who are sucking in massive amounts of data are going to screw it up for us all so buggar off elsewhere. It is what it is.
4:21 pm
February 1, 2012
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Ok I am going to continue to use as much data as I possibly can.
Its no secret canada has horrendous mobile rates. The major wireless providers in canada continue to gougue canadian consumers with absurd rates and plans. They bully up and coming companys with market share. They sign exclusive deals with cell phone manufacturers so you have to go outside of the country to buy the new devices without being locked in on a carrier. They payoff politicians to exert influenece in government to avoid regulation that would force them to change their practices or to use the same regulation to keep out threats to their business.
I am sure everyone of the members of this forum could recount horrendous experiences in dealing with these companys. That is ultimately why you ended up coming to speakout I would imagine. The fact that you are posting in a thread talking about usage of data means that you all want to use data but do not want to pay the current rates offered on the major carrierrs.
I can not change the business practices of the major carriers but I can as a consumer choose to protest such wrongs with where I spend my dollars. Speakout has given me the platform to protest with their UMB and so I use it to do so.
These carriers have continued to profit on the ignorance of the average consumer. Any one who does not take advantage of the unlimited plan because they are worried about losing it are selfish and not seeing the bigger picture. You would rather the status quo remain and have the majority of canadians continue to be gouged so that you can save yourself a couple of dollars.
I for one would rather continue my heavy usage. Does this mean that I might lose the plan offered by speakout currently. It might but I would rather use the plan excessively untill its gone than continue playing to the status quo of ridiculous data caps and horrendous rates.
I have said it another thread and I will say it again. We should all use as much data as possible and encourage everyone we know to do the same. It will help to show there is a market for heavy data usage and it will force the major carriers to adjust to demand or let other companys that are more willing to cater to the market flourish.
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4:59 pm
April 8, 2011
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Your protest is quite flawed and here is why. You say you would rather lose what you have (a good deal) as a protest to the high rates. What will replace the current (good deal) is more "horrendous" rates. So why abuse something that is a good deal? You screw over the masses for your self righteous quest to teach a huge company a lesson. No one asked you to do this, in fact there have been several people quite outspoken against your moronic plan and the amount of data you use.
Your little story also didn't mention that this "Road Trip" was out of country. Out of country rates are charged by the host country not the country of origin. My AT&T plan in Michigan can roam in Ontario. Rogers is the one that charges AT&T for my data (I don't roam because it's too expensive $0.0015/Kb). Alternatively, I can use my Rogers wireless to roam in the US on the AT&T network. The rate that AT&T charges Rogers is $3/Mb (twice what rogers charges).
If you used one of the US carriers unlimited data plans when they had them available, you would have been throttled, cutoff, and then removed from the plan for abuse.
Edit by admin: some offensive and abusive language removed.
5:40 pm
February 1, 2012
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You are failing to see the bigger picture. One single person using loads of data is not going to change anything but if more and more people left the major carriers to go to speakout the major carriers would be forced to adjust their plans and rates to lure customers back.
If speakout pulls the plan because its not viable financially, you can gaurentee they will adjust to a plan that is more viable. In either way we the consumer will win.
I might lose out on 10 dollar "browsing" plan but if that happens than something else will be offered to accomodate the growing market.
So that is why I will continue to use it excessively as well as encourage everyone I can to do the same.
If we all used very little data what incentive would speakout or any other carrier have to accomodate high data users on their networks and change their current offerings on rates.
You guys go ahead and limit yourself to your 10mb's a month (which by the way at that little data used a flex tablet plan would be cheaper or the same price without the limitations) or 50mbs or whatever you think is non excessive.
I will continue to milk it for all its worth. Either more people will flock to it and the demand in the market will shift so carriers will have to adjust the supply accordingly or it will remain the same and I will be one of those top 1% users that abuse the system while you conservative users limit yourself and not take advantage of it for fear of losing the status quo. If the majority of users here are keeping their limits really low it will offset my high usage and I do not need to worry about the plan being eliminated.
5:53 pm
April 8, 2011
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That's where you are missing the big picture. If Speak Out cancels the plan because it isn't financially viable, we the consumer lose. Why? Because they will replace it with a plan that is financially viable. That means more money for Speak Out and where does that come from. Us, the consumer.
Second, I bet my ass that regardless of a demand for a $10 a month unlimited browsing, if it's not financially viable, NO ONE will offer it. Companies don't set up business to give away money.
Every carrier accommodates high data users. It's called overage fees. Ridiculously high yes, but it's there. They don't just shut you off.
I honestly couldn't use 1Gb of data a week on my iPhone. That's like uploading 1000 photos to Facebook or downloading a feature length movie in 1080P.
Do what you want, just don't try and justify your violation of the terms of use ploicy it to the rest of us.
5:55 pm
February 1, 2012
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also resorting to name calling because of a difference of opinion is really not necessary and will just turn a legitimate thread into a flame war. I hope the mods do something about your post.
6:02 pm
December 30, 2010
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completely flaw logic.
If SO(or Rogers) cannot make a profit in UMB, it will be cancelled and whatever replace it is not going to be 'BETTER'. All other PAYGO data are metered and they are more expensive than SO.
SO's plan is not a full plan which is why it is cheap and there are people whose usage fit this pattern.
I am quite liberal and don't care how people use it but as someone has already mentioned, your usage is violating their terms and conditions.
Though I doubt they would do anything specifically about this as it is Roger's task and I doubt they would do it. The easiest way for Roger's would be to cut the whole deal and there goes the UMB.
As I said, I don't like it to be cancelled though it doesn't hurt me much(I am using Bell 250MB/15), just found your selfish act AND disgust as 'I am fighting for justice' a bit difficult to swallow.
6:20 pm
October 14, 2008
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I have brought up this issue with Peter, the site owner. To discourage name-calling, and more blatant disregards to the terms of use set by SpeakOut, the thread will locked until we hear back from him.
9:21 pm
March 31, 2007
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This thread will remain closed. Thank you iamdrumming for stepping in here.
This site does not endorse anybody violating the terms of service of any company. That said, if you do not agree with the terms of service, you are certainly welcome to post in the forums. We appreciate civilized and productive discussions on relevant topics such as this; however, this thread's discussions have not been civil nor have they been productive.
Future posts that involve abusive language and/or personal attacks, as well as future posts that encourage others to violate terms of service will be deleted, and repeat offenders will be banned.
