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Bell Sim Card Does Not Work
April 16, 2010
4:10 pm
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i have open nokia 2730 classic which accepts a roger's sim card but not bell's...

is there anything that can be done to change this...

thanks in advance for your suggestions/response...

cheers

April 16, 2010
11:04 pm
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Nothing you can do. Bell/Virgin/Telus do not support any GSM phones at all, only UMTS/HSPSA phones that work at the 850 mhz or 1900 mhz frequency.

April 17, 2010
5:24 am
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does roger erect their own towers or do they purchase user rights from bell...

April 17, 2010
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bridonca said:

Nothing you can do. Bell/Virgin/Telus do not support any GSM phones at all, only UMTS/HSPSA phones that work at the 850 mhz or 1900 mhz frequency.


hi bridonca,

how come a bell sim card works in a bell nokia 2730 classic and not mine...

April 17, 2010
12:36 pm
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Whoops, I made a mistake. It mistook the 2730 as another GSM phone speak out sells, I thought you were talking about either the 2720 or 2760. My bad.

The Nokia 2730 does the required UMTS/HSPSA frequencies as well as GSM. Your problem is that your rogers phone is locked, and until you unlock it, it will not work with Bell sims.

The source cc sells a bell 2730 for $50. maybe that is an option.

Rogers has their own towers for the most part. Even when they share a tower, they use their own gear. Rogers and Bell have a partnership with their wimax network though. Telus and Bell share gear and towers. Bell supplies the east. Telus supplies the west.

April 17, 2010
12:54 pm
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bridonca said:

Your problem is that your rogers phone is locked, and until you unlock it, it will not work with Bell sims.


should have given more information: the phone referred to is not a roger's but a phone purchased and used in Thailand...

we also purchased a second nokia 2730 just upon leaving so it's a virgin in that it did not receive any sim cards...

so, would a bell sim card work in the virgin phone...

and how would i go about unlocking the other phone which had a True International calling sim card (assuming it would then work on the bell system)...

thanks for your response/consideration...

April 17, 2010
3:49 pm
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Ok, I see your problem. Assuming it is not locked, which if it works on Rogers, it probably is not locked, you own a Nokia 2730 that only does the European UMTS/HSPSA frequencies, something like 900 mhz/1800 mhz/2100 mhz. Bell/Telus/Virgin support none of these frequencies. Rogers/FIDO/Speakout do not support these frequencies either, but since these carriers also support the GSM network, you have a working 2g Nokia 2730. Not so with Bell, no GSM, and no working UMTS/HSPSA frequencies make for a useless phone.

Bell/Telus/Virgin only do UMTS/HSPSA at the 850 mhz or 1900 mhz frequency. Getting a European model is usually a very bad idea, because manufacturers have been known to make 2 versions of the same UMTS/HSPSA phone, a European and a North American version. You got the wrong version, sadly.

April 17, 2010
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bridonca,

thank you for clearing things up for me....

April 18, 2010
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bridonca said:

Getting a European model is usually a very bad idea, because manufacturers have been known to make 2 versions of the same UMTS/HSPSA phone, a European and a North American version. You got the wrong version, sadly.


before laying this to rest there are a couple of other thoughts that came to mind:

first, can the european phone be reformatted and programmed to work as a north american version...

and, what about installing the latest available update from nokia, might this be a way of over writing the european program...

as always input would be greatly appreciated

April 18, 2010
2:25 pm
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I have not heard of any hacks. I doubt any software update will be of much help.