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5:59 am
February 28, 2011
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Hello all,
My first question is whether my Nokia E71 (now unlocked but was originally from Rogers) can benefit from the $10 unlimited web browsing.
Is the Unlimited Browsing done in 3G or 2G? it is not clear to me if Speak Out now have moved to 3G or not
Will SO work in Montreal? I understand SO uses Rogers network. I was told that if I go to Toronto and buy a SIM and prepaid vouchers, I can have the sim registered to a local Montreal number and make phone calls in Montreal and benefit local rates. Could someone confirms this for me please. If that works, I would like to buy a SIM from someone here or wait until the next time I travel to Toronto in a couple months.
thanks
8:02 am
April 22, 2009
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I would argue that the E71 is one of the best phones for Speakout browsing, since a lot of the apps for it have no problem going through a proxy. Being a Rogers phone is icing on the cake, you do not have to configure anything! It did not even have to be unlocked!
Speakout will work anywhere in Canada that has a Rogers tower nearby. I am in Halifax, probably 2000 km away from the nearest 7 eleven store, but I have Speakout working here.
There would be no issue in swapping SIM cards back and forth if you decide to do that. I prefer to have a phone for every SIM card, but that is only a personal preference.
9:13 am
February 28, 2011
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bridonca said:
I would argue that the E71 is one of the best phones for Speakout browsing, since a lot of the apps for it have no problem going through a proxy. Being a Rogers phone is icing on the cake, you do not have to configure anything! It did not even have to be unlocked!
Speakout will work anywhere in Canada that has a Rogers tower nearby. I am in Halifax, probably 2000 km away from the nearest 7 eleven store, but I have Speakout working here.
There would be no issue in swapping SIM cards back and forth if you decide to do that. I prefer to have a phone for every SIM card, but that is only a personal preference.
Were you able to register your Speak Out to have a local Halifax phone number?
Do you know if my E71 will work with the $10 unlimited browsing using 3G ?
10:01 am
April 22, 2009
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I have a Local Halifax number with my Speakout SIM. I can call and receive calls from the whole 902 area code anywhere in Nova Scotia as a local call. Also, my Rogers Nokia E71 is using the data plan from Speakout's $10 unlimited browsing. And lately, I have been getting 3G, but it sometimes goes back to 2G every so often. So do not expect 3G though. If you get it, great, but if not, you never paid for it!
1:34 pm
February 28, 2011
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bridonca said:
I have a Local Halifax number with my Speakout SIM. I can call and receive calls from the whole 902 area code anywhere in Nova Scotia as a local call. Also, my Rogers Nokia E71 is using the data plan from Speakout's $10 unlimited browsing. And lately, I have been getting 3G, but it sometimes goes back to 2G every so often. So do not expect 3G though. If you get it, great, but if not, you never paid for it!
Thanks alot Bridonca for replying. I will go ahead and try the Speak Out but I need to get a SIM first. I posted a WTB Sim and Voucher and maybe I will have some luck finding one as I am not planning to travel to Toronto in the near future.
Alternately, do you think the Petro Canada will work the same way too for the E71+$10 UMB ? We have Petro Canada here in Montreal and I think I can buy a phone package here locally.
2:42 pm
April 22, 2009
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Petro Canada is a better bet because you can get airtime locally. The only advantage Speakout has is that you can get air time for $25, and it will last a year. With Petro Canada, you need to buy $100 credit to have it last a year. If you are going to use the SIM for date, it does not matter, because you are going to spend more than $100 anyway.
Another carrier to look at is good2go http://canada.good2gomobile.com Shell sells airtime and phones. They also offer browsing for the same price.
All 3 of these companies are run by the same company, Ztar mobile, and all use the Rogers network.
7:53 pm
February 28, 2011
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I have another question: I remember reading somewhere here that the Petro and SO web browsing is done through a Proxy server and restricted to WAP pages only.
What exactly does that mean in plain English? how limiting is that?
8:14 pm
April 22, 2009
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The proxy does odd things to some web pages, resizes pictures, and other odd stuff. For the most part, most web pages work, but if the page is overly complicated, not so much. Not really a big deal with the E71, because it's browser is not the greatest in handling those type of pages very well anyway. I believe it is worth $10 for what you get, but you won't get the kitchen sink.
I tell you what I do with my E71 besides browsing. I use MGMaps, Google maps, upload pics to Fickr and OVI directly, I can Gmail, send and receive free SMS messages with Google Voice, and other stuff I do not remember right now. All for $10.
7:02 am
February 28, 2011
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One member on the other forum mentioned Loblaws/President's choice that runs on Bell. Apparently it has the UMB and the Web browsing is full-enabled. Do you have any more details or experience on this?
8:40 am
April 22, 2009
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I do. With President's choice mobile SIM card, the 20 cents a minute rate is nice. Paying $10 for just the SIM card which has $10 credit is also nice. However, the unlimited browsing option is very bad. At least when it comes to using your E71. At best, it will just not work, at worst, you will get charged 5 cents a kilobyte.
If however, if you get you hands on a Bell Nokia 2730, UMB works great. The problem is the phone is garbage because of the fecal matter Bell adds to the phone.
I hope things have changed, but it was certainly like that in January.
11:02 am
February 28, 2011
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I think things might have changed for President's Choice UMB since Feb according to a post on Redflagdeals.com. Some people have reported that it is possible to use the $7 UMB on a smartphone provided the APN is configured correctly. The correct APN should be proxy.bell.ca not pda.bell.ca. Apparently if the settings is left to the default pda.bell.ca, a smartphone will get the 5 cents per kb which will use up the money quite fast. However if the APN is set to proxy.bell.ca, you can benefit from the UMB.
Also, it was reported very recently it is working in 3G without the WAP browsing limitations.
When you tried last time, were you aware of these two different APN settings?
12:19 pm
April 22, 2009
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That is very welcome news! I hope it also works for me! I was using the pda.bell.ca APN with proxy in January and had problems! I will have to talk to the President's Choice people again.
7:36 pm
February 28, 2011
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I have good news!
President's Choice Mobile UBM is working for my Nokia E71 at 3G speed!
I went to Loblaws and got the $10 SIM which came with a $10 credit, activated over the phone, added the UMB for $0.25 a day. The system deducts right away $0.40 for the 911 fee and $0.25 UMB, leaving a balance of $9.35. I configured the APN as described above. Some people reported you have to create this new APN without the SIM inserted and you might have to pull out the SIM and re-insert it twice and make sure the settings are remembered correctly by the phone. In my case, I did not have to do that. The phone remembered the settings correctly on the first try.
I have been browsing since this afternoon and regularly checked the balance, it is still at $9.35
I have yet to find a website or application that does not work properly. So far, regular browsing, youtube, skype VoIP, MSN, TV broadcast such as live BBC, CNN, CBC etc. work properly
I tested several times at different moments of the day with dslreports\mspeed and I consistently get speeds between 1.2 and 1.8 Mbits/s so I am quite happy for 25 cents!
By the way, is that a good speed for 3G? how fast is Bell 3G supposed to be?
3:47 am
March 10, 2010
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You are getting good speeds. Currently on Speakout I'm getting 800 kbps 3G speeds.
3:54 am
March 10, 2010
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Can somebody post all the settings required for the PC profile including APN (proxy.bell.ca), password, port, etc?
4:03 am
April 22, 2009
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This looks like the settings. If I am wrong, let me know.
APN: proxy.bell.ca
Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca
Port: 80
7:06 pm
February 28, 2011
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Bridonca
Have you given another try at Pc Mobile? it should have better coverage than Rogers in your area.
5:53 pm
April 22, 2009
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Yeah, I activated it and got data working today. Opera was giving me problems, but once I disabled turbo mode, all was good. Not all that fast, but I am using it through the proxy. I always worry Bell is going to find a way to overcharge, but the President's Choice mobile people assure me any charges would get reversed. I am satisifed enough that I will talk to Speakout to deactivate my data for a few months so I have the 1 year, $100 credit last the full year. 2 data plans for $200 is a pretty good deal!
8:47 am
February 28, 2011
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So Bridonca, you are an experienced user, now with the 'new' PC-mobile/Bell access, do you think it is better than the Speak-out/Rogers network?
is the browsing less restrictive now as opposed to Rogers?
5:24 pm
April 22, 2009
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I am happy with President's Choice/Bell mobile data so far. The data is a little slower than Speak-out/Rogers, but it is less restrictive. Then you have to add in the other advantages, which are numerous.
A President's Choice SIM costs $10, with $10 of airtime, Speak-out SIM cards cost $25 and only come with $5 of airtime.
President's Choice's monthly fee with data and SAF is about $8, Speak-out's fee is $11.25
President's Choice calls are 20 cents a minute. Speak-out charges 25 cents.
As for for disadvantages, Bell's business practices still scares me. Then again, Roger's FIDO division also did me wrong. I think it is really good to have another company like Loblaws or 7-11 as intermediaries. It helps that their success revolves around keeping their customers happy. They certainly have more clout when dealing with the telcos than I would. Negative customer satisfaction seems not to affect the telcos bottom line.
