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5:56 pm
Folks,
As most of us have already noticed the recent trend at SpeakOut, I am not quite optimistic about this new one either. However, without trying one myself, I would like to ask if those of you who have got the SpeakOut "Jamma", does it lock to Rogers and SpeakOut SIM?
If it is unlocked, then I guess the $40 extra (SpeakOut deal is $139.99) over the $99.99 Rogers PAYG counterparts may still be justified for someone who wants to get an unlocked Quad-band GSM handset.
BTW, check out my impression with the same handset from Rogers if you want...
6:29 pm
October 14, 2008
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Is the 5130 definitely a quad band phone? I heard that it is a tri-band.
11:14 pm
March 15, 2008
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11:53 pm
October 21, 2008
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Bylo, you made a little mistake. THe Canadian site you found was for the Nokia 5310 Xpressmusic, instead of the 5130 Xpressmusic.
Here's the Nokia.ca site
http://www.nokia.ca/find-produ.....ifications
The Canadian version is quad-band.
But you're right, silly Nokia for naming a very similar phone with very similar numbers!
12:12 am
Folks,
Both production models of 5130 XpressMusic, RM-495 and RM-496, are QUAD-BAND GSM handsets according to Nokia's service manuals and schematics, as well as in the Nokia Phoenix information screen (If you still have doubt, you can hook it up with signal generator and analyzer to make sure ;-p )
This is why it intrigues me about why such a $40 difference vs the Rogers for the same thing. If you have got the SpeakOut variant, please help us to determine the SIM-lock status. Thank you.
12:52 am
October 14, 2008
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HC - NO "i",
Thanks very much for your input in this forum. It is appreciated! I can't afford getting a 5130 right now, although I do have an AT&T sim sitting in front of me right now! I used it to check another phone to see if it was unlocked or not.
Maybe the fine folks of Speak Out who come to this site will let me "test" a 5130 🙂
11:36 pm
My gf just bought a Nokia 5130 in Waterloo and it was locked. Pretty disrespectful on their part to sell you a crippled product, half off or not.
7:01 am
October 14, 2008
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SPR said:
My gf just bought a Nokia 5130 in Waterloo and it was locked. Pretty disrespectful on their part to sell you a crippled product, half off or not.
Most cell phones from any GSM provider these days come locked. Be it Rogers, T-Mobile in the USA, etc
8:46 am
May 1, 2009
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SPR said:
My gf just bought a Nokia 5130 in Waterloo and it was locked. Pretty disrespectful on their part to sell you a crippled product, half off or not.
Its not crippled. Its protected.
They have right to protect the business.
As you see so many sell the hardware on this site.
11:13 am
March 15, 2008
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Its not crippled. Its protected.
It may also be crippled, i.e. certain functions like downloading ringtones and other stuff from non-SO websites may be disabled and/or other menu items may be blocked.
That's in addition to the phone being locked to SO/PCM/Robbers network so that even when you're travelling outside their range you can't use the phone with another carrier's SIM.
They have right to protect the business.
Let them do that by offering better rates and customer service than their competition so that customers will have no reason to move elsewhere.
When you sign a postpaid contract the cost of your phone, often sold as "free", is subsidized by your monthly package fees. I can see the business logic in locking such phones for the duration of the contract but not afterwards and certainly not like SO prepaid phones where you'd paid for the cost of the phone up front.
11:31 am
May 1, 2009
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bylo said:
Its not crippled. Its protected.
It may also be crippled, i.e. certain functions like downloading ringtones and other stuff from non-SO websites may be disabled and/or other menu items may be blocked.
That's in addition to the phone being locked to SO/PCM/Robbers network so that even when you're travelling outside their range you can't use the phone with another carrier's SIM.
They have right to protect the business.
Let them do that by offering better rates and customer service than their competition so that customers will have no reason to move elsewhere.
When you sign a postpaid contract the cost of your phone, often sold as "free", is subsidized by your monthly package fees. I can see the business logic in locking such phones for the duration of the contract but not afterwards and certainly not like SO prepaid phones where you'd paid for the cost of the phone up front.
I agree with Speak-out and not you. They have right to lock the phone. If you don't like it you can go to Rogers/Bell etc. You want cheap rates, unlocked phones and all you want to do whatever.
You can't have it all. Sorry buddy welcome to Recession.
1:55 pm
March 15, 2008
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I agree with Speak-out and not you.
Then you must love DRM in everything from MP3s to books and all the draconian consequences that arise from that. Anyway I'm curious why you think that even after I've paid full price for a phone, the carrier -- not the manufacturer -- should control how I use that phone on someone else's network.
Sorry buddy welcome to Recession.
What's a recession got to do with it? The carriers locked phones long before any recession.
P.S. In Europe (a) phones are cheaper, (b) they're not locked, (c) airtime is cheaper, yet (d) the carriers are profitable. Shocking, isn't it?
