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iOS 6 limitations on Speak Out data
September 19, 2012
4:32 pm
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iOS 6 was made available today. I just upgraded my iPhone 4, it looks to me like everything is the same, with the exception of maps (map data only works over wifi)

Anyone aware of other limitations with iOS6 on Speak Out that we didn't previously have? Any way to get data to load for maps when not on wifi?

Cheers,

..mm

September 20, 2012
10:31 am
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Hi,

Just want to confirm the maps issue. I have the same issue on my iPad 2 that was working flawlessly with Google maps but now nothing except that maps that I looked at via wifi. They are still available "offline".

Chris

September 20, 2012
10:49 am
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That's bad. Even before I saw this thread, I downgraded back to iOS 5.1.1 because the new maps were so bad. I did not test if they work on 3G though. But if they don't (I guess new maps use non-http ports that are filtered by Rogers), then iOS 6 is to a large extent useless on Speakout. Here is the downgrade guide that worked for me. Having a backup in iTunes helps. The guide says to also upgrade iTunes to 10.6.3, but I already had 10.7 and it worked too,
http://techglobex.blogspot.ca/.....re-to.html

One note. After downgrade I lost 3G. I re-entered APN settings (through iPhone Config Util), toggled 3G on/off, took the SIM out and put it back in. Nothing helped. Called support, they said to hard reset the phone (hold both power and home buttons down for 10secs until the screen goes black) and they were going to send a signal to the phone or something. That did not seem to help. So 5-10 minutes after hanging up on support and finding that reset did not help, I took the SIM out again and put in an old non-working SIM and then put my SIM back and 3G started working. Maybe it was another SIM, but maybe it took support few minutes to do whatever they were going to do.

September 20, 2012
5:25 pm
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That downgrade will only work for a short time until Apple closes the 5.1.1 signing of SHSH blobs. After that point, you would have to back up your SHSH blobs or create a custom IPSW of your current 5.1.1 with iFaith.

September 20, 2012
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iOS 6 doesn't have any feature I consider as 'nice to have' so far. Even iOS 5 comparing with 4 is just a 'well...'

IMO, apple has already passed their peak from a mobile phone technology perspective.

I have saved my SHSH on all the iDevice and would stick with 5.1.1 for a long long time.

September 21, 2012
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I wouldn't let myself being discouraged of upgrading to iOS6 just because maps don't work on SO!
The first thing I did was linking Google Maps to my home screen and that works fine. Rumor has it that Google is working on an app and if Apple doesn't find a rediculous reason not to approve it, we are hopefully fine again.
Anyways, the SO limitations suck but on the other hand imho no other provider offers a remotely good value for money!

September 21, 2012
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I have a 4s with ios6 and Speakout. I can get apple maps to work on 3G if I am getting it to navigate from source to destination. The voice navigation (turn left on this road, go for another 500 metres, etc). The only issue I seem to have is the maps are not always displayed. So I may start of with the maps and half way through to my destination, the roads may disappear. However, the voice navigation to direct me to my destination has been working flawlessly so far. It also knows to use alternate routes if I deviate from my original route.

I have another issue with ios 6 /Speakout but will start another tread

September 21, 2012
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Checked and confirmed this issue on my iPhone 4.

I switched over to an android phone, but it's a bit sad to hear that maps isn't working 100% on SO anymore =/

September 21, 2012
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Little correction, I tried iOS6 maps in Toronto downtown today and to my surprise it did work, it just took a bit of time before all data was loaded (satellite and street maps). I didn't try navigation though but from what I hear wouldn't dare anyway until Apple has sorted the major bugs.

September 23, 2012
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I've also noticed the same issue. I was afraid this would happen since non of Apple's apps seem to use port 80. I've tried using Google Maps through Safari, but at most zoom levels the text is close to unreadable. Has anyone else had this issue? Are there any good alternatives in the app store?

September 24, 2012
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I've used the app Navfree USA when I go to the US. It preloads the maps so that the phones' GPS can give you directions, even without cell service. I'm pretty sure you can get Canadian maps too.

September 24, 2012
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Weird about the maps data. I live in a small city, and the iOS 6 maps and satellite images are better for my area than the Google ones. But I don't need a map to get around here, I need one in New York or San Francisco. And apparently the iOS 6 maps suck in those places.

So for me, for now, it's Google Maps in Safari. Sucks, but I can't complain at SpeakOut prices

September 24, 2012
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Ok, just checked, and the maps app *does* work in iOS on SpeakOut. It just takes a minute or two to load the map data. I bet it tries whatever port it usually runs on, and it times out and falls back to port 80.

September 25, 2012
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Okay, I was able to get the Google mobile site 100% clear. If you have a Gmail address, just sign into the mobile maps site and magically it works. Hope it works for everyone.

Navfree Canada works too.

September 25, 2012
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that i believe is because google switch to https once you sign in, for everything. It is one thing I like about them starting from gmail. yahoo still doesn't encrypt mail content and hotmail was very recently have encrypt everything.

December 13, 2012
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ccwestcliff said:

Hi,

Just want to confirm the maps issue. I have the same issue on my iPad 2 that was working flawlessly with Google maps but now nothing except that maps that I looked at via wifi. They are still available "offline".

Chris


Hi,

The new iOS Google maps app is out now. So far, it seems to work flawlessly as it was before with Speak Out or Petro-Canada on 3G.

Download here:
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/id585027354?mt=8&s=143455

Daniel