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iPad 1 3G w/ Data from Speakout
March 20, 2012
7:15 am
harvwallbanger
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So with the recent release of the iPad 3, I picked up a 64gb 3G iPad 1 for a good price and decided to get the Speakout Data package for it.

I already have my iPhone 4 and my wife has her iPhone 3GS on Speakout with the data for over a year know and are happy with it.

So I bought a SIM card for $10, had it cut into a micro and had it activated with the data plan enabled.

I restored my iPad to factory settings and then used the iPhone Configuration tool along with the settings found here on the forum.

When I inserted the SIM card, it registered with Speakout and I had full bars. Great I thought!!

I installed some apps and setup my gmail though the microsoft exchange.

Now here is where the issue seems to be......

IT IS VERY SLOW in retrieving data!!!!

When I have my iPhone beside the iPad and attempt to do the same function with each at the same time (ie: check my email) what takes the iPhone a few seconds to do, takes the iPad anywhere from 45 seconds to a couple of minutes to load up.

So I thought well maybe because of the iPad and the screen resolution being bigger that the data/images would be bigger resulting in a larger download file, hence a longer download.

So I installed a few of the iPhone apps on the iPad to see if that would make a difference. Small screen resolution resulting in a smaller download.

That didn't work either, so it doesn't matter which app I use, the iPad or the iPhone version, both are VERY SLOW!

Anyone else on here have the Speakout Data on an iPad 3g? Whats your data speed like?

Is there something I forgot to do, or need to tweek in the settings?

Thanks for your time.

March 20, 2012
7:25 am
altadude
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The iPad 1 is very slow in general compared to an iPhone 4. It's the iPad not the service.

March 20, 2012
8:38 am
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Not sure if that's the issue.

By that logic, when both devices are running off of Wifi, I would still see a noticeable difference in the two, which I don't. Both load pages at the same rate while using wifi.

They both run off the same A4 1ghz chip as well. Infact the iPhone's chip is scaled back to 800mhz.

The friend I bought it off of had a Rogers contract with it. It seemed to work pretty fast with Rogers.

I understand that the SpeakOut data plan is scaled back, but I'm trying to figure out why the difference between the iPhone and the iPad with the same Speakout data package.

March 20, 2012
8:49 am
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SpeakOut is not as fast as Rogers. I found during several speed test that SpeakOut was about 80% to 90% of what the Rogers tests were.

That said, there will be a slight difference between your friends Rogers vs your SpeakOut experience. I recently was in Florida and used my mothers iPad 1 on AT&T. It was almost useless compared to my iPhone 4S. Same thing as your experience. 1 - 2 minute load times for email. I gave up on it. The iPhone 4S isn't that much faster than the iPhone 4.

That's my experience.

March 20, 2012
10:40 am
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Speakout has a data plan? How much data do you get? How much do you pay for it?

March 20, 2012
11:36 am
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$10 a month.

It's a scaled back version of Rogers. Good for email, web browsing, facebook and a few other apps for smartphones.

March 20, 2012
3:45 pm
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fefrie's sarcastic questions were due to the fact that Speak Out technically doesn't have a data plan: it's "unlimited browsing", and has been the source of many complaints, confusions, and arguments about what it's meant for and what is within the terms of service. (And as an illustration of the point, some will argue that it is abundantly clear what it's for and what's within the terms of service!)

Please see this thread regarding this forum's stance on the terms of service issue.

March 20, 2012
8:44 pm
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What APN settings are you using on the IPAD? Are they the same as your iphone's?

March 21, 2012
10:45 am
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Turns out Rogers and MTS were doing some work on the networks yesterday as I was trying to get iPad up and running which resulted in slow or no service during the day.

Now it runs great!!

March 21, 2012
12:36 pm
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Peter said:

fefrie's sarcastic questions were due to the fact that Speak Out technically doesn't have a data plan: it's "unlimited browsing", and has been the source of many complaints, confusions, and arguments about what it's meant for and what is within the terms of service. (And as an illustration of the point, some will argue that it is abundantly clear what it's for and what's within the terms of service!)

Please see this thread regarding this forum's stance on the terms of service issue.


My view is that SpeakOut was designed for phones, not for use on PC's/iPads, even though some might think it's ok for that. This is taken from the official TOS:

"add ons MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the following: (i) continuous mobile to mobile or mobile to landline voice calls; (ii) automated text or picture messaging to another mobile device or e-mail address(s); (iii) uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video programming or games; "

Isn't the last part what an iPad does? As far as I'm concerned, this is a violation of the official TOS.

March 21, 2012
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iamdrumming said:

Peter said:

fefrie's sarcastic questions were due to the fact that Speak Out technically doesn't have a data plan: it's "unlimited browsing", and has been the source of many complaints, confusions, and arguments about what it's meant for and what is within the terms of service. (And as an illustration of the point, some will argue that it is abundantly clear what it's for and what's within the terms of service!)

Please see this thread regarding this forum's stance on the terms of service issue.


My view is that SpeakOut was designed for phones, not for use on PC's/iPads, even though some might think it's ok for that. This is taken from the official TOS:

"add ons MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the following: (i) continuous mobile to mobile or mobile to landline voice calls; (ii) automated text or picture messaging to another mobile device or e-mail address(s); (iii) uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video programming or games; "

Isn't the last part what an iPad does? As far as I'm concerned, this is a violation of the official TOS.


while there are people using iPad for video streaming and/or facetime, it is not the norm. Very few people use it for voice call and it cannot be done using UMB(unless you are the selected few).

So no, your conclusion is all wrong about iPad. You are not the one who defines what it means for the TOS of SO. You are entitled to define that for this site though as you are the moderator. Just don't mix them up.

May 5, 2012
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I used the config file off this thread and got my Ipad1 working on Speakout.
thanks -ken