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iPhone 3G Mail App on SO Data Plan
September 15, 2010
9:05 am
imcyberdude
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Just got the SO data plan, created a profile on a Rogers iPhone 3G 8GB (people are saying these models are banned?), and got the built-in browser to work.

I could not get the built-in mail app with a gmail account to work. I believe it uses SSL with incoming port = 993 and outgoing port = 576. These settings work on wifi.

I read the last pages on this forum: some say SSL does not work, some say switch the ports to 80, some say use uafaker to pretend the phone is on wifi. I tried the last 2 options and neither works. Of course, I can go to gmail from the built-in browser, but I would like to use the mail app if I can.

So is it true then that the built-in mail app does not work on SO data plan?

September 15, 2010
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I believe it is impossible to get working. The incoming and outgoing mail servers operate an ports 110 and 587, and the SO proxy limits traffic to port 80 only.

September 16, 2010
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Thanks for the reply.

I ended up reading a few more long threads on this forum and found a workaround. I added an exchange account for gmail. The only drawback comparing to my original imap gmail is that I cannot specify a different "from" address - I have to use the gmail address as the sender.

On a related note, anyone found an IM client that works? Fring and Nimbuzz do not work.

September 17, 2010
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Can you post a link to the hotmail/exchange post?

September 17, 2010
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Never mind, figured it out.

September 20, 2010
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imcyberdude said:

Just got the SO data plan, created a profile on a Rogers iPhone 3G 8GB (people are saying these models are banned?), and got the built-in browser to work.

I could not get the built-in mail app with a gmail account to work. I believe it uses SSL with incoming port = 993 and outgoing port = 576. These settings work on wifi.

I read the last pages on this forum: some say SSL does not work, some say switch the ports to 80, some say use uafaker to pretend the phone is on wifi. I tried the last 2 options and neither works. Of course, I can go to gmail from the built-in browser, but I would like to use the mail app if I can.

So is it true then that the built-in mail app does not work on SO data plan?


Hi there:
Could you please tel me how I can make my iPhone 3G 8GB works with SO?
I'm no savvy and just tried to switch the sim card and got "no service"
I appreciate any instruction,
thank you

September 21, 2010
3:54 am
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What carrier is your iPhone locked to? If it is not a ROGERS phone, the first thing you wil have to do is Jailbreak and unlock it. For directions, I'll need to know what model iphone, and what version of software it is on.

September 21, 2010
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The first thing you need to do is turn off 3G: Settings - General - Network - Enable 3G = Off.

October 26, 2010
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imcyberdude said:

Thanks for the reply.
I ended up reading a few more long threads on this forum and found a workaround. I added an exchange account for gmail. The only drawback comparing to my original imap gmail is that I cannot specify a different "from" address - I have to use the gmail address as the sender.
On a related note, anyone found an IM client that works? Fring and Nimbuzz do not work.


So can you please confirm that setting up Gmail as an Exchange account then allows you to use the iPhone Mail App directly for email (and thus you do not need to visit Gmail via Safari)?

October 26, 2010
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That is correct, gmail set up as exchange account works using the default Mail app.

October 26, 2010
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andreww said:

That is correct, gmail set up as exchange account works using the default Mail app.


Thank you for the swift answer, I wasn't expecting anything for a day or so. That's fantastic information though! Given that Rogers seem to have removed the IMEI block for iPhone 3G units, I think I'm going to take the plunge and try the SO Unlimited Browsing service. It'll mostly be for email on the go, so with that being pretty much plain text, I don't think speed will be an issue. I'm really excited to give this a try!

October 29, 2010
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Crap... Well I got the Speakout Unlimited Browsing going no problem, and so far it's great. Not fast by any means, but certainly has already met my needs/expectations. Everything works as people have described.

What I could not get workign the way I wanted was the mail App. I already had my Gmail account set up as a Gmail account within the iPhone. Yesterday (at home on WiFi), I tried turning the Gmail mail off, and set up my Gmail as an Exchange account. Unfortunately, Exchange is less than ideal. What I really want is to just display the 50 newest emails in any folder - Inbox, Sent, Starred. Unfortunately, Exchange on iPhone can't do that. You have to pick the number of days to synchronize, which for my Sent mail and Starred mail, does not work.

So I figured I could set up my same account@gmail.com as both a Gmail AND Exchange, with Exchange set to 1-day for only "on the go email". It was good in theory. I could go to the Gmail and Exchange in the Mail App when on WiFi and all was well.

Then I got data set up today, and for the LIFE of me, I cannot get the Mail app to send using Exchange. I've tried everything I can think of. But whenever I create a new email, one particular "account@gmail.com" in the From section is selected. When I send, I eventually get a timeout from smtp.gmail.com. If I try and select the OTHER "account@gmail.com" instance, it always seems to revert to the default. That is, I can select the OTHER one, but if I select the From section again, the selection has reverted back to the original.

With ONLY an Exchange account set up it's fine, but I can't live with that.

So I've resigned myself to living with Gmail via Safari. The web interface is still fine. I just need to sync my iPhone contacts over to my Gmail account and I think this will be still a suitable solution.

October 29, 2010
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I am guessing that your iPhone is seeing your Gmail account as the default account and deferring to it, even when not on wifi. You can try turning the accounts on or off when on either network, or try switching the default email account to the desired account.

October 29, 2010
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andreww said:

I am guessing that your iPhone is seeing your Gmail account as the default account and deferring to it, even when not on wifi. You can try turning the accounts on or off when on either network, or try switching the default email account to the desired account.


I did try setting one or the other as the default account, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Turning the accounts on/off daily is a bit much, for now I think I'll live with the web interface. I've wasted enough time on it for now LOL, might try again in future.

Thanks for the response though.