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September 24, 2012
8:29 pm
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Tonton said:

Saxytim
Sorry I missed your post earlier but I think you answered the question to ccwestcliff and MiG. Are all these unlocked phones ordered online?


Yes, they are ordered online. I woke up early on Sept 14 (3:00am Toronto time) to get my preorder in in order to get a Sept 21 delivery.

By the way, a nice surprise. I discovered that if I set up gmail on the iphone 5 using Exchange Activesync/push, notification would work.

September 25, 2012
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Yep, ordered mine online via apple.ca at shortly after 3am on release night.

However, given all the reports about damaged phones (mine is fine fortunately but see macrumors.com) and given that you have to wait a month now to receive an iPhone 5 you might want to consider purchasing a 4S instead?! The lock button on my iPhone 4 broke in May hence my upgrade to an iPhone 5 now and I was lucky to receive it on time and in excellent condition.

However, you might be better of purchasing a 4S now for less money and wait for the 5S or whatever next year?!

September 25, 2012
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Still haven't placed an order. The Apple Store says the wait period is now 4 weeks due to shortages. No way am I going to order now and wait that long. Preference is to hold off until supply is better. Besides, there are many complaints on Apples user forum about poor quality - WiFi quality, phone back is easily scratchable and some new phones arrive scruffed, phones don't charge properly, and on and on. Might as well wait until these quality issues are resolved.

September 26, 2012
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I was under the impression that they are in store right now. At least they seem to be in the Telus stores. I believe Apple is telling maybe a few porkies here. I believe Apple is "jumping the shark"

September 26, 2012
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bridonca said:

I was under the impression that they are in store right now. At least they seem to be in the Telus stores. I believe Apple is telling maybe a few porkies here. I believe Apple is "jumping the shark"


I think Apple to need to come up with some different material all. I don't want to pay $700+tax and easy to scratch. It's an expensive phone

Logo+hghjg=save $$$$$

September 26, 2012
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I think if you look back at the iPhone 4 launch (and the previous ones), there were a lot of the same issues.

Don't confuse what techies and nerds like us think for what the average person thinks. I see so many of these phones being used by people who don't know and don't care what model phone they have, what software they're running, etc.

September 26, 2012
1:32 pm
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MiG said:

I think if you look back at the iPhone 4 launch (and the previous ones), there were a lot of the same issues.

Don't confuse what techies and nerds like us think for what the average person thinks. I see so many of these phones being used by people who don't know and don't care what model phone they have, what software they're running, etc.


Agree, I believe that the majority of scratched and dented iPhones are like this on purpose and man-made and not through the production process. There are plenty of reports about unhappy Foxconn workers and for me that fits in perfectly. Otherwise I can only presume that the production process is rather crap and the end control is virtually non existent.
However, if I would be to order now, I would be concerned what I get as well.

Generally I believe that all phones need some kind of cover if you want to preserve the condition. I think every phone I owned at least once slipped out of a pocked while sitting and hit and floor / tiles whatever. If I wouldn't have had a case, they would have all had more or less bad scratches.

In terms of availability it is still the case that Apple Stores don't have unlocked units for sale (just for exchange for damaged units) so unlocked phones are only available to order online via apple.ca in Canada.

Again, whoever doesn't have a 4S already might want to consider to get a 4S and wait until next year to see what Apple does with all the problems etc.

September 26, 2012
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MiG said:

I think if you look back at the iPhone 4 launch (and the previous ones), there were a lot of the same issues.

Don't confuse what techies and nerds like us think for what the average person thinks. I see so many of these phones being used by people who don't know and don't care what model phone they have, what software they're running, etc.


So long it is apple's greatest and latest.

Things change and things never change, just replace apple with whatever favorite of the time

September 26, 2012
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This would be my first iPhone. No way am I going to give Apple money for a 4S now and a 5s next year on an untried product (for me). I'm peeved that Apple refuses to sell unlocked in the Store. I'm considering Samsung now.

September 26, 2012
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Weird that they don't have an unlocked iPhone in the store if they sell them unlocked on the website.

I'd be interested in an unlocked Samsung too -- where would you get one of those unlocked?

September 26, 2012
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eBay seems to have some decent vendors when it comes to unlocking phones, check their feedback of course. Sammys have a history of being rather easy/cheap to unlock.

I was never a iphone person, because it was too expensive. I did understand why other people bought them though. But now there are so many good Android phones out there now that are better than Apple's greatest, and are cheaper. That was the first time that happened. Apple always had the better phone.

In the meantime, the Android OS got better, and is easily up to par with the Apple OS. Plus you can get whatever phone you want at whatever price point. I currently use a $80 Galaxy Gio, my sister in law has a Galaxy III. Both do pretty much the same thing, though the better specced phone does it better of course.

then there are the games Apple plays with the SIM card, and new proprietary port. You could get away with this crap when you are top of the heap, I think that is not going to go over well now that Apple is losing it's lead. A lot of people will be buying iphone 5's just because, but sales will never be as good as it once was.

September 27, 2012
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bridonca said:

then there are the games Apple plays with the SIM card, and new proprietary port. You could get away with this crap when you are top of the heap, I think that is not going to go over well now that Apple is losing it's lead. A lot of people will be buying iphone 5's just because, but sales will never be as good as it once was.


Give your head a shake. Apple doesn't play games. The old charge port has remained the same since about the 3rd generation of ipods. Thats almost 10 years! Do you expect it to remain unchanged for eternity? The sim card is smaller simply to save space. Apple prides itself in making things smaller and lighter, so any new technology that saves space and weight will always be implemented. And people are buying the iPhone 5 because it is a good phone. LTE speed is amazing, and the camera is fantastic.

September 27, 2012
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if apple pride itself for making things smaller, why didn't they use micro-usb in iphone/ipod ? The pre-iphone 5 port is unnecessary large IMO.

And what is the advantage of the new port over micro-usb ?

September 27, 2012
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Apple made claims on-stage about improved speed and reliability, thanks to an “eight-signal, all-digital” hardware design.

Apple always does thing right. Why use a slower USB technology? Of course Apple also benefits by a proprietary connector in that every device that is geared towards the phone needs to licence the technology from Apple. Smart on both ends. Apple likes to control what devices and accessories their devices work with simply because it makes the user experience so much better. The computer, computer OS, phone, phone OS, iTunes, cables, etc. are all apple designs and made to function flawlessly with each other. An Android phone may be as good as an iPhone, where it differs is how it works with your PC/Mac and how it fits in to your digital lifestyle.

September 27, 2012
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I thought the other end is connecting to the slower USB technology(which if it is a PC, no where apple can control) ?

And not to mention iTune the worst software I have even seen, talking about apple always doing thing right

Apple is a 3rd grade technology company, 1st class marketing firm.

September 27, 2012
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Not being an engineer, I understand that the new dock connector is "clever" and can reassign the pins depending on the needs of whatever is attached (a charger being a very simple example).

This is the reason why Apple decided not to go for micro USB or something as the specification wouldn't allow a "clever" plug.

As a matter of fact the Lightning USB cable has a micro controller built in and I saw a story yesterday (with a picture of that controller), that the production of the cable costs Apple about $9 or something, so way more than the old cables.

Anywhoo, this of course has a huge impact on after-market / 3rd party producers of accessories and I leave it up to the people in the know (and I am not) if Apple changed the design just to make more money in selling accessories that work on the new iPhone or if this really takes the port design to the next engineering level...

September 27, 2012
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chimpanzee said:

I thought the other end is connecting to the slower USB technology(which if it is a PC, no where apple can control) ?

And not to mention iTune the worst software I have even seen, talking about apple always doing thing right

Apple is a 3rd grade technology company, 1st class marketing firm.


The PCs are still running iTunes. And if you spend any time in the apple community forums you would know that the majority of people that have problems with things like syncing, device recognition, etc. are on PC.

iTune is actually a pretty decent piece of software, especially if you get your music from the iTunes store. Most people who complain about it are the ones that get their music from torrents and the like. Its very confusing if your music isn't labeled correctly.

As for Apple being a first class marketing firm, think again. Apple does very little advertising and do no consumer shows. They built they're brand with quality products and great customer service, nothing else.

September 27, 2012
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good in marketing has nothing to do with how many ad or shows they run

And what good would the 'apple quality all digital' port do when the PC is the same plain old USB 2.0 ? And what is the percentage of i* device connecting to the all mighty apple device vs PC ?

They build their brand using very carefully crafted marketing scheme. Of course they need a good product for their clientele too. But good as always is in the eye of beholder and usage.

I use iphone and android. And I can say that if I am in the 'consumer' mode, I find it to be very nice. Switch back to my productivity role, apple stuff sucks.

September 27, 2012
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I think some of the writers here should go to the discussions forum on the Apple web site and post our opinions there (positives and negatives). It might be good to let Apple know what we think of them and their products.

September 27, 2012
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they don't really care given what I have seen

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