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Shhhh! We're all waiting for the ball to drop.

Personally, I think it's a temporary benefit while Rogers is upgrading there network, maybe something to do with the 3G outage as well?..Who knows, especially when Speakout plays dumb about things like this. My guess is that since Speakout hasn't even made an announcement, they didn't even know about this bonus. There is no way Rogers would give SO customers this sort of data plan for $10. So if it is something permanent, then I can see pricing for data being implemented (Like Presidents choice mobile). I would prefer to keep the $10 UMB feature over paying more since I could do everything I really NEED to do with the proxy in place.

If it's too good to be true, than it usually is.

I use my Nokia's built-in VoIP/SIP client when I'm at places with a WLAN access point, I've never expected that Rogers/Speakout would ever open the various ports necessary to do VoIP while using the UMB plan. I just use the data plan for consulting maps, real-time transit schedules, a bit of on-the-go information look-up on the web, etc. The built-in IMAP/contacts/calendar synchronization also works nicely with Google.

Nevertheless, since others have reported that Skype and other VoIP type applications are now working, I experimented on my Nokia by putting the GoRogers access point higher in priority than WLAN for internet access, and enabling the "AWCDMA" feature in the SIP profile (which I believe allows the SIP profile on the phone to work over any available GPRS/3G networks).

Lo and behold, incoming SIP calls will now ring the handset, but accepting the call will immediately raise a warning Nokia dialog: "Forbidden!" or "Not allowed!" (I don't remember which). So it looks like connection setup data is reaching the phone (I tried this on two different SIP UDP ports that my VoIP provider allows), but the actual connection is blocked--which does not surprise me. Skype uses a different approach to VoIP, so perhaps Rogers/Speakout can't filter it as easily as conventional SIP connections.

Anyway, I'm a complete neophyte, I've had my Nokia N8 for barely a week now (I'm still all thumbs on the touch screen...), and my degree of knowledge & experience with the whole device (and mobile phones generally) is paper thin so far. But I thought I'd report anyway...

And the only voip program I have used is the magicjack program on my phone, and it works without any issue over 3G.

This is entirely up to rogers and I believe due to technical reasons rather than marketing reaons. So I agree that either it will be blocked again or there will be no more UMB, in particular people keen on bragging it in various venues. There is no way Rogers would allow this if everyone on the street knows about this.

I have said that I knew how to use the UMB as full data ever since I get my SIM in March, just like any Rogers customer.

probably. I don't really need UMB as my usage pattern is around ~200MB/month so a reasnably priced one is perfectly fine

andreww said:

Reason they wouldn't advertise is that once they have met their objective of taking down the competition, they can stop it. Also, they don't want their own customers to hear about it.

But doesn't that present a Catch 22 situation for Rogers:

In order to steal enough subs from Wind and Mobi to hurt them they need to get the word out. But if they advertise this publicly then Rogers subs are gonna be pissed!

It's fine to say just spread the word low-key on forums like this but Rogers subs follow these threads too.
I don't see how they can count on one group knowing without the other. Word gets round!

Laridae said:

I'm really enjoying using Data on SO now.
I was out for a walk yesterday and it was great to receive my gmails on the fly.
Also, I was able to follow the map of my location on my GPS/Exercise app (Endomondo) in real time.
I'm really enjoying this added Data functionality. Hopefully people won't get too silly with it and get us all cut off!

I'm just curious. Does anyone know; is this something that SO and Rogers will make permanent? Or is it just a temporary fluke while Rogers is tweaking their service for their mainstream subscribers? Or is it an experiment to see how it's received?

I find it odd that SpeakOut hasn't made any official announcement on this. I'm a little afraid that if it was going to be made permanent they'd be blowing their horn more by now!

Hi Laridae, do I have to subscribe a Data Plan with Speakout in order to get email on my cellular?

andreww said:

Guys that are with Rogers already are more than likely locked in to a contract so they cant switch. If they happen to be Rogers or Fido pay and talk customers moving over, no big loss either. The objective is to keep as many low enders under the Rogers umbrella as possible. Interesting theory anyway.

Personally, I think these new Speakout changes will be around for a while anyway. Speakout has been 3G for quite some time now, despite the fact that they don't have a 3G phone in their lineup. We all thought that would be short lived as well, and when it actually went away in some areas, it came back on several weeks later. This is far mor than a mistake or a glitch in the system. It is deliberate, but for what reason I have no clue.

Wow its amazing ! I can download apps etc all with decent speed watch video !!?? awesome ! used the nz unlock on my iphone 3g otherwise the phone could not start using the data ..

Hopefully, the ghost of 'Christmas Past' will haunt them forever and we will see a continuation of this trend!