9:40 pm
December 16, 2009
Just added the "data plan" option on my Samsung Galaxy W (unlocked Bell smartphone) that I got for $150. A little frustrating and took a bit of time since the instructions were all over various forums and assumed certain technical knowledge. Hearty thanks to all posters who were so helpful.
Thought I would share what I learned all in one place.
Activate $10/mo Unlimited Browsing option
1. You can either go online and activate Unlimited Browsing or call 611 on your Speakout phone for Customer Service (free call). It will take a few minutes for it to be work.
2. If you activate online, you will still need to call CS at some point because it is important that they reset your connection. I didn't do this when I first got the phone working and the speed was slow. When I called CS about the slow connection she asked whether my phone was the old Nokia and I told her I changed to a Samsung Galaxy. She advised that she was going to reset the connection and asked to have my phone switched off and battery removed for 15 mins.
Preparing your phone
First: you need to have have the phone "rooted" as you will be installing a Proxy app that needs to have access to the root level of the system. Very simple to do with SuperOneClick. Download from CNET to your PC, unzip, and then connect your phone. Instructions on how to use SuperOneClick are here at Tom's Guide. Just one click and it automatically determines the model of your phone and goes about doing what it needs to do. You might need drivers for your phone if Windows can't detect it.
Once successfully rooted, switch on phone. Go to Market and install ProxyDroid or AutoProxy Lite. I use ProxyDroid as it can automatically switch on the proxy when you access a Wireless Network. With AutoProxy you need the paid version to do that. (If you have problems just try the other one). A proxy is needed in order to route all calls by apps on other ports to port 80 which is used by all browsers – the only open port from Rogers.
Configuring your phone
1. On your Android phone go to Settings > Wireless and Networks > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names.
2. Delete any existing APN’s.
3. Add a new APN
4. Enter the following:
Name: Speakout
APN: goam.com
Proxy: 10.128.1.69
Port: 80
Username: wapuser1
Password: wap
Server:
MMSC: http://mms.gprs.rogers.com
MMS Proxy: 10.128.1.69
MMS Port: 80
MCC: 302
MNC: 720
Authentication Type:
APN type: internet+mms
5. Save APN
You should see your phone get a data connection and be able to browse the web. (If not, you might need to restart your phone for the APN to activate, which I needed to do)
Set up Proxy App
Tap on either ProxyDroid or AutoProxy app (whichever you installed)
Enter the following:
Proxy Host: 10.128.1.69
Proxy Port: 80
Proxy Type: http
You don't need to enter anything else
That's it, you're all set…..
Enable the Proxy app and start using all of your apps (some exceptions) on a "browsing plan".
With Speedtest.net App: I was able to get 3M down and 3M up with Ping about 400ms
Able to use most apps including YouTube, Crackle, DailyMotion, Tune-In Radio (most stations – some wouldn't connect), Live365, Scanner Radio, Google Play Store, Maps, Pulse, Vancouver Sun, Google Finance, LiveTransit Vancouver, GMail, TextMe, Words with Friends, Facebook. A bit of a delay on start up due to slow Ping but all run normally just like on Wifi.
Happy to now have my internet radio access at work and on the bus without worrying about hitting data limits.
Update: Doesn't work: Dell Voice, K9Mail . ProxyDroid uses up battery quickly.
Update: Speakout has a "fair use" policy (read the Terms) and they may suspend your account if your usage is over 2G a month. They will warn you once and after that you take your chances.
8:30 am
June 9, 2012
7:17 am
December 22, 2008
11:29 am
June 24, 2012
Bunch of newbie/tech-illiterate questions... I have an unlocked Galaxy W as well.
Side note... but I think that for the average person (me!), reading about 'unlimited browsing' and 'check your emails' and 'find the location of the nearest 7 Eleven' implies that your can use apps like Maps and Mail freely outside of the browser on your smartphone... alas no as I discovered too late, but ANYWAY...
1. Is rooting my phone a risky process? Do I run the risk of damaging anything? If I later switch to another provider (I'm looking at you, Windmobile) will this be a problem?
2. Does the proxy only chew through battery when you're using it? ie. if my phone is mostly on idle and I've turned off GPS and check email manually, will it make much of a difference?
3. If I later switch to a provider that gives me data, can I easily turn the proxy off? Or delete it? Can I reverse the rooting process if I'm no longer using the proxy that requires it?
4. Does the proxy automatically turn off if I switch to WiFi? (total newb question, but if I'm using WiFi am I automatically not accessing data via Speakout?)
Will probably be back with more questions as they occur to me...
2:23 pm
April 22, 2009
There is always a chance you could brick your phone when you try root it, though not a high one. Just keep in mind it is not supported and likely will void your warranty. If you need another provider, you might have to also unlock your phone. If already successfully rooted, you should have no other issues.
The proxy should have little effect on battery life.
You can easily turn the proxy on and off. You can even have the proxy tied to a carrier's APN and nothing else if that is what you want. I have my proxy tied to Speakout's APN, but it is not on my wifi or on the Bell APN.
You can delete the proxy, and I am pretty sure you can get rid of root. Just delete the appropriate program. There is no real advantage in deleting root other than get in the phone back to carrier specs.
11:17 pm
December 30, 2010
proxy has quite a significant drain on battery life, if you like me don't use the phone very often. Basically, the proxy means you have something running all the time rather than on demand(which is how the 2G/3G network is designed).
I can use my Gio for ~5-7 days between charge without proxy and needs to recharge it every other day with proxy, exactly same usage pattern.
3:54 am
April 22, 2009
I guess YMMV. I never noticed much difference between the proxy being on or off on my Galaxy Gio. I think it depends on what apps you have running, I suppose. I have the WIFI on most of the time, so I get a day out of the phone, at best.
In any case, it is really easy to turn on and off the proxy, run the program, and toggle the switch.
As said, you need to root the phone, you thing need to install autoproxy, or proxydroid. You configure the rogers proxy server, and can set where to bind the proxy settings, (the Speakout APN is a good choice) and then turn it on and off as needed.
7:57 am
March 12, 2009
4:08 pm
December 16, 2009
kitscha said:
1. Is rooting my phone a risky process? Do I run the risk of damaging anything? If I later switch to another provider (I'm looking at you, Windmobile) will this be a problem?
2. Does the proxy only chew through battery when you're using it? ie. if my phone is mostly on idle and I've turned off GPS and check email manually, will it make much of a difference?
3. If I later switch to a provider that gives me data, can I easily turn the proxy off? Or delete it? Can I reverse the rooting process if I'm no longer using the proxy that requires it?
4. Does the proxy automatically turn off if I switch to WiFi? (total newb question, but if I'm using WiFi am I automatically not accessing data via Speakout?)
1. Risky process? There's always a risk that the coding of the rooting process is incorrect – can happen but there are checks usually built into the process.
Risk of damage? Other than above….no. All rooting does is give the user "administrator rights" – using Windows terminology.
Changing providers – none.. whether you have "administrator rights" is irrelvant to them. Same as whether you use an Unlocked phone. You muck up the phone and can't access their service, that's your problem.
2. Proxy will chew up your battery as it will always be on regardless whether you're using any apps. Kinda like having Wifi always on even if you're not using it. If you have heavy data traffic, it will use up even more since it needs to process every bit of data. My advice is to turn it off. Sync your apps when you go online.
3. If you later switch to full data and don't need the proxy, just uninstall the Proxy app. – there is no changes done to your system. You can unroot the system (you'll need to do a search to find it though) if you wish but why would you….there are many other apps that does wonders for the system that requires root access. Eg. CPU control that can conserve your battery use.
4. When you go on WiFi, you're automatically off Wireless. Whether you're automatically switched off proxy depends upon the proxy app used.
4:26 pm
December 16, 2009
kitscha said:
Thanks so much for your speedy response!
Can you tell me how you turn the proxy off (in generalities- I understand it will be specific to phones)? And how do you tie it to the Speakout APN?
To use a proxy you just install a proxy app (ProxyDroid or AutoProxy). A proxy is just a means to redirect data traffic from say Port 100 through Port 80 (the only port open by Rogers for Speakout). It is not specific to any phone. Depending upon the particular proxy app you choose to run, you can configure when the proxy mode for that app is switched on/off. For ProxyDroid that I run, once you entered the proxy info, there is a widget I can place on the screen which I tap when I want it on/off. It's that simple.
Most of us will only be using only the Speakout APN so you just enable/disable the App whenever you want full data or not.
9:41 pm
January 23, 2010
Thx for the detailed instructions. I have a t-mobile unlock phone and got 3G working with many apps (e.g. gmail, fb, map, browser). Two follow-up questions:
1. Is there a way to get whatsapp to work without rooting my phone?
2. Tether: My laptop can connect to the phone and contact 10.128.1.69. But the website (e.g. google.com) took too long to respond. I thought for this case I don't need to root my phone?
7:39 am
January 24, 2010
imcyberdude said:
Thx for the detailed instructions. I have a t-mobile unlock phone and got 3G working with many apps (e.g. gmail, fb, map, browser). Two follow-up questions:
1. Is there a way to get whatsapp to work without rooting my phone?
2. Tether: My laptop can connect to the phone and contact 10.128.1.69. But the website (e.g. google.com) took too long to respond. I thought for this case I don't need to root my phone?
99 cents so just pay for it
+=save $$$$$
6:47 pm
December 30, 2012
10:55 pm
March 5, 2010
Hey, thanks for the post.
I for some reason can't get my new Nexus 4 to tether with my laptop, it worked before with my other android on i think GB, I am also using a mac and have the proxy settings in Firefox, and that works fine right now threw my blackberry as a bluetooth modem, but my new phone won't work.
I have the hotspot working on the phone with the build in tether app, ok, and i can connect to the wifi network on my mac but it shows no network activity. I have only ever had the proxy setting on the browser when using the android wifi hotspot (on a htc desire with gingerbread) not touching the system settings as firefox has the setting, i don't see where i could even change proxy setting for a wifi connection on a mac in the system settings, or if that would even help.
Of course for the blackberry i have a profile set up for the bluetooth connection in networks, it is working fine and i get nice but kind of slow 3g connection, but sick of switching sim cards back and forth to my new phone.
Not an expert with this, but not a total nooobie, but it has me stuck, the new nexus is working great with the proxy on that device, just the wifi tether won't work (could it be Jelly Bean or the Nexus for some reason?)
thanks guys, good luck getting your phones all up and working.
11:08 pm
December 30, 2010