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2:04 am
August 8, 2009
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Hello:
I would like to ask you guys about the best option to buy a sim card. Any advise will be appreciated.
Here what I need and want to do:
- hassle free registration (no name, address, etc)
- top up using vouchers,
- local and international texting
- local min
- based in Ottawa (not too many 7-11)
- Have already a phone with a sim card and plan, but will be alternating in the same phone the phone's existing card and the new sim card with the aforementioned requirements.
What about a Rogers sim card for this matter?
Thank you for your answers,
drk
4:05 am
October 21, 2008
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ROgers will probably ask you for your name and address, and most likely Fido will too.
Other companies do not use GSM phones, but CDMA (so they don't have SIM cards)
That just leaves Speakout and PetroCanada. So, if you don't want Speakout, then PetroCanada Mobility wins by being the last one standing. And it will do all those things you mentioned you want them to do.
7:48 am
August 8, 2009
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Tank you Bing Ang.
Forgot to mention that I want to keep the existing number working with the existing sim card, but when installing temporarily the new sim card it has to be another number (provided with the new sim card?), and then switch back to the other one for my normal number, and so on.
does it make sense?
dk
9:13 am
October 14, 2008
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Yes, that makes perfect sense 🙂
When you get the new sim, it will come with it's own number. Switching sim cards is done all time. Just make sure your phone is unlocked, and it will happen with no problems.
Petro Canada Mobility is a good option. However, you should know that only the $100 top-up voucher lasts a year with Petro Canada. With SpeakOut, any top-up amount lasts a year. That's another thing to consider.
9:21 am
March 15, 2008
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- hassle free registration (no name, address, etc)
Why/how is giving your name and address a "hassle"? Or is the real issue that you want an untraceable phone?
Forgot to mention that I want to keep the existing number working with the existing sim card
Keep in mind that if your current cellphone carrier has your name/address then porting your number to a new carrier like SO or PCM will probably also port over your name/address.
8:52 pm
August 8, 2009
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hi Bylo:
there is nothing illegal, just want to keep it as private as possible,let's put it like this: I can't have two cellphones at home, but having only one I can have two sim cards that I can alternate when I need to. The new card will be kept under the radar so to speak.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't want to port my number to a new carrier. i want to have 2 sim cards working with one cellphone (not at the same time of course).
So my current number and sim card will be kept working. The new sim card and new number will need to be activated to work on my cell phone (thus activating a new number) when I switch the sim cards.
Petro Canada is the best option then?
9:27 pm
March 15, 2008
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Assuming that your current phone is either unlocked or locked to Rogers you can have as many Rogers, SO and/or PCM SIMs as you want and use them all, one at a time, with that phone. There's no need to port any numbers. Indeed you don't want to do that because once the number is ported from SIM1 to SIM2, SIM1 becomes unusable.
As for privacy, note that every GSM phone has a unique IMEI serial number which is broadcasts when used. So even if SIM2 is untraceable, if you use it with a phone whose IMEI is traceable, you no longer have privacy.
9:23 am
August 8, 2009
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Great point Bylo.
I just don't want to get statements at home for that private sim card, nor have any possibility of any details in my current statement of the existance of a second sim.
About the IMEI number that's ok, it's just the phones number that I want to keep private. I'm assuming that the statements (for a plan) are linked to the sim card and not to the IMEI, right?
Now, my current sim card is Rogers, the phone is unlocked, now it's a matter of the hassle free activation. So a new SIM with ROgers would have to have the same IMEI (same phone), but this would give me two phone numbers, one statement as normal for the plan SIM and no statment at all for the new SIM.
-does rogers allow interntional texting with a pay as u go sim card?
-would i have to provide all my details for the activation?
-or do I start hunting for a PCM sim card?
Thank you,
dk
10:04 am
March 15, 2008
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I'm assuming that the statements (for a plan) are linked to the sim card and not to the IMEI, right?
Correct.
Now, my current sim card is Rogers, the phone is unlocked, now it's a matter of the hassle free activation. So a new SIM with ROgers would have to have the same IMEI (same phone), but this would give me two phone numbers, one statement as normal for the plan SIM and no statment at all for the new SIM.
You'd have to check with Rogers but I suspect you'd get whatever statements Rogers issues with PAYG phones. That may be nothing but I don't know.
-does rogers allow interntional texting with a pay as u go sim card?
-would i have to provide all my details for the activation?
-or do I start hunting for a PCM sim card?
You'll have to confirm that with Rogers unless someone else here knows for sure.
5:29 pm
I've never used them but there are dual SIM adapters out there so you can have both SIMs in the phone at the same time. Maybe that's an option for you. Just google "dual SIM adapter" and have a look at the various websites.
7:34 pm
October 21, 2008
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I've seen one of those dual-sim adapters on my uncle's Nokia. Works well, except you can't use both SIMs at the same time. Each time you turn the phone off and on, an extra piece of software installed on the phone asks you which SIM to use. It's like having a dual-boot computer.
8:38 pm
March 15, 2008
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There are also some phones that have two SIM slots in them, some of which allow both SIMs to be active simultaneously. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_SIM
9:21 am
August 8, 2009
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Hi Bylo:
I'm back in town to continue my quest for the sim card.
Now, I hope you can explain to me a few queries about the registration:
- If I choose petro canada or SO, I have to register the sim card with the phone's IMEI number, and will we assigned a new phone number. Right? Then I continue using my other mobile phone and just swap the cards when need to.
- Or do I have to register the new card with the IMEI number of the phone that I am currently using?
- As I said before I don't plan on keeping the PC or SO mobile, and I don't plan on port or change my current phone number, I want two sim cards with two different phone numbers working on one mobile phone when I swap them.
- Now, if I receive a text SMS to the number which SIM card is not on the phone at the moment, would I receive it once I install the SIM card? Does the same apply for voice mail messages?
Thank you for your time for answering my questions!
Drk
10:52 am
March 15, 2008
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- If I choose petro canada or SO, I have to register the sim card with the phone's IMEI number, and will we assigned a new phone number. Right? Then I continue using my other mobile phone and just swap the cards when need to.
No. The IMEI IDs the phone. As long as the IMEI is valid (e.g. the phone hasn't been reported stolen) and the phone isn't locked you can use it with any SIM. If you get a PCM or SO SIM then it should already have a phone number assigned to it. If the number is in the wrong area code or phone exchange (e.g. it's a 905 AC but the number is for Oshawa and you want a Mississauga number) call CS and ask them to give you a new number.
- Or do I have to register the new card with the IMEI number of the phone that I am currently using?
No. The IMEI and SIM are independent of each other. I've used my SO SIM with at least 3 different phones from 3 different makers.
- As I said before I don't plan on keeping the PC or SO mobile, and I don't plan on port or change my current phone number, I want two sim cards with two different phone numbers working on one mobile phone when I swap them.
That should work with any unlocked GSM phone. Once the SIMs are set up there`s no need to do anything else other than swap SIMs.
Now, if I receive a text SMS to the number which SIM card is not on the phone at the moment, would I receive it once I install the SIM card? Does the same apply for voice mail messages?<
Yes.
